Ignorant fucking twats

Ministers are to announce plans to allow magistrates to sit on their own in community centres or police stations in a bid to speed up justice.

They\’ve just spent a decade or more closing down local Magistrate\’s Courts and organising them into more \”efficient\” regional ones.

And this?

Sittings would take place in varied locations including community centres and police stations as well as via live video link to cells.

No fucking way. Even for a guilty plea on a trivial offence everybody, but everybody, gets their moment in an open court. Summat to do with this Habeas Corpus thing, no?

How long would it be before commital proceedings were done by video link? Before bail decisions?

Just no.

And perhaps dragging the physical body into court makes the courts system more expensive. But that\’s just absolutely fine for the administration of justice is what the State\’s fucking for. It\’s vastly more important than quashing inequality, fighting misogyny or proividing duck houses for our rulers. This is the whole damn point of having a State and a taxation system, so that we can indeed have that public good of the tolerable administration of justice.

8 thoughts on “Ignorant fucking twats”

  1. Keep your hair on, Tim. For all the Herbert’s unfortunate choice of phrase “summary justice” this might be a good idea.

    At the moment there is no incentive to enter a plea before the hearing, hence the delays. And justice delayed is justice denied.

    And sensibly they are trialling this trial method. The question is “Do these instant courts reduce crime?”

  2. If this is designed to allow the beaks to let off the yobs they are letting off anyway(See Julia M and Ambush Predator blog), at a cheaper rate, it would at least cost less to achieve zero result. For anything other than that 100% argeement with Tim.

  3. At the moment there is no incentive to enter a plea before the hearing, hence the delays. And justice delayed is justice denied.

    It’s left to the discretion of the court, but the sentencing guidelines suggest a discount of up to a third for entering an early guilty plea. At the first reasonable opportunity, a third; when the trial date is set, a quarter; and a tenth “at the door of the court” (i.e. when the trial begins).

  4. blokeinfrance said: And sensibly they are trialling this trial method. The question is “Do these instant courts reduce crime?”

    I expect they’ll sidestep that metric.

    It would help to have justice before trying to speed it up.

  5. Mr Ecks,

    If this is designed to allow the beaks to let off the yobs they are letting off anyway(See Julia M and Ambush Predator blog), at a cheaper rate, it would at least cost less to achieve zero result.

    The article is about criminals who enter guilty pleas. In what sense are they being “let off”?

  6. ukliberty,

    By definition, you can only “let off” the guilty. I assume he means by giving them sentences that provide no deterrent or punishment effect.

  7. There is overtly more justice than there is with FPNs. There doesn’t appear to be much less openness than there is with allowing guilty pleas by post. Especially if the convictions and sentences were made part of the public record.

    Although I could see, if this were not an offensively anti-libertarian government that this might be a step worth complaining about, in the grand scheme of things it seems relatively sensible.

  8. The obvious way to cut down on the costs of lower courts would be top have fewer criminal offence. This government seems to be creating new crimes almost as fast as the last one. Fewer criminal offences = fewer crimes = fewer court cases.

    I hope the success or failure of this trial will be decided by a jury of 12 people chosen at random.

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