Mr Monbiot\’s interesting plan

Apparently social justice requires that parents cannot educate their children as they would wish.

Or as we might put it, social justice requires the abolition of liberty and freedom.

17 thoughts on “Mr Monbiot\’s interesting plan”

  1. So Much For Subtlety

    I love the idea that parents cannot be allowed to escape the system so that they have to suffer and hence join Monbiot in his fight to improve the education system as a whole.

    I am thinking of insisting that all leftists have to be mugged by gangs of Jamaican-born patios-speaking yoof. Not so they will join any cause I support. Just because.

    Although if it doesn’t work I think they need to be mugged again.

  2. I called my blog post on this ‘State Education As Crap As The Education Secretary’, but perhaps I ought to just admit that ‘State Education Is As Crap As The People Who Want to Inflict It On Everybody’…

    Anyway, it seems plain to me that private schools are not run by the state. They do better than state schools. Therefore lets give the money to parents and let them send their kids to the schools they chose. Can we expect any mainstream politician in this country to make that very obvious connection? Nope, not any more than we can expect a politician to say look, the NHS isn’t the best health system in the world…

    http://progcontra.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/state-education-as-crap-as-education.html

  3. From the comments:

    “Stalin was a tory in the way he used totalitarianism, absoluteism and a total
    disregard for democracy, like this rightwing tory regime.”

  4. The Pedant-General

    Ah yes. Another example of the timeless truth that putting qualifying any well understood term with the prefix “social” reverses its meaning….

  5. It’s unworkable too, at least for boarding schools. There’s nothing to say that a boarding school has to be in the UK: there are some fine schools as close as Ireland or the Isle of Man; or as far away as South Africa. If they shut the boarding schools of Britain, the sector will simply move off-shore.

  6. You could get quite dizzy in George’s moral universe. In practically every other column he finds a pretext to inflict harm on someone, or to frustrate them, or to diminish them in some way. And this gets him very excited. When he rails against people’s “undeserved advantages,” he’s referring to their earnings. And when parents use their own earnings to educate their own children as they see fit in a voluntary transaction, this, to him, is the height of wickedness. And of course it must be punished.

    By Monbiot’s moral logic, even if you had a grim and frustrating experience at a state comprehensive, you should still want to inflict that same grim and frustrating experience on your children, and on the children of your neighbours. Robbing them of the chance to escape is what kind people do, apparently.

    I assume Monbiot imagines himself to be a good and caring person, a compassionate soul. A warrior for “social justice.” At least he tells us so often enough. But shutting down escape routes, locking people in and robbing them of freedom, which is what he and his Guardian peers advocate, doesn’t suggest altruism or compassion. It suggests sadism.

  7. I guess he really REALLY hated his private schooling then. Plus a humongous dollop of liberal self-loathing and guilt about his extremely privileged upbringing.

  8. AndrewM (#6), the offshore boarding school might not work; if the parents are UK resident they could still be prosecuted for not sending their children to a UK State school.

  9. I seem to recall that abolishing private education would violate some facet or other of EU legislation, although even if this were the case there’s probably a way round it.

    It’s not clear in Monbiot’s universe what people are actually meant to do with any wealth they may have accrued over the average, except to forfeit it to people like Monbiot to be redistributed. It seems a stretch to assume that he would regard the mere acquisition of more material goods as morally neutral. Even if he were to do so, it would imply the deranged state of affairs whereby it were preferable for a wealthy man to buy a more expensive sofa than to educate his children.

  10. If monopolies are so bad that there’s a Competition Commission to prevent them – presumably something Moonbat supports – why should the government have a de facto monopoly on education?

  11. And don’t forget George’s eagerness to punish people who “have more space than they know what to do with” – i.e., a spare room.

    Yes, that home you’ve spent decades working for and maintaining, and making your own space, is, he says, “a common resource.” And so “those who insist on under-occupying their homes” – as determined by Mr Monbiot – “should be forced to pay for the privilege.” Those who don’t wish to downsize or fill their home with strangers and live like a student are to be punished with social disapproval and “a big tax penalty.”

    Apparently, George can fathom the precise amount of a person’s living space that they need (by some calculus that isn’t clear), with the “excess” being up for grabs by the collective. He seems quite sure that huge swathes of the population can simply be made to do without an asset they may well regard as rather precious and personal.

    Note Monbiot’s obvious enthusiasm for punitive measures, and notice his evasions and outright lies when challenged on his own words and their obvious implications. Something tells me Mr Monbiot isn’t the altruistic hero he would like us to believe he is. Something else drives him, something unpleasant.

  12. “And when parents use their own earnings to educate their own children as they see fit in a voluntary transaction …”

    whilst still paying the taxes to support state-run education.

  13. Doesn’t George have quite a lot of spare room at his gaff these days in rural Wales? I heard his wife had pissed off with the kids.

    Perhaps that column was more self-loathing made print.

  14. Rob (#15), I suspect he would declare his spare rooms to be business premises for his writing.

  15. Sadly, the more I read Monbiot , Penny and their ilk along with many of the commenters at CiF, the less I think they’re just well-intentioned but ill informed people, I actually think they’re evil.

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