That disastrous potash mine in Yorkshire!

This will be one of the biggest mines of its kind in the world, and will despoil 4.5 hectares of the 100 hectares of forestry already owned by York Potash, a subsidiary of the mineral mining company Sirius.


10 whole acres. Maybe 11.

What a shockingly vicious attack on Gaia to get out 1.3 billion tonnes of potash. Enough to fertilise the world\’s crops (yes, the entire world\’s) for a decade.

0.0000034% of our green and pleasant England.

Please, wankers, just fuck off would you?

31 thoughts on “That disastrous potash mine in Yorkshire!”

  1. Maybe we should all go away and die.

    I mean. I actually breathe out real CO2, as well.

    Guilt alert, guilt alert.

  2. I would bet 50p that the person who wrote that also thinks we shouldn’t have “destroyed the coal mines” and been so horrible to the lovely NUM. You see, mining’s only bad when it’s done by horrid capitalists not to support cuddly miners.

    Worth noting that before the strike the average subsidy paid per miner was (I have seen quoted) the salary of 18 junior nurses, or that coal output was back up to within a whisker of pre-strike levels a couple of years after the strike, but with 2/3rds fewer miners…

  3. Take a look at the Yorkshire Potash website. It is a very small area in some pretty boring agricultural countryside.

    Cutting down some monocultural forest, create 1000 jobs, and then (I’m sure) either returning site to its status quo or building some nice nature reserve seems an eminently sensible suggestion.

  4. It’s nice of the Guardian to illustrate what 10 acres of forest might look like, pre-despoiled, by providing us with a picture of heather moor with a few areas of woodland in the background.

    Or, them being metro-lefties, is that what they actually think 10 acres of forest looks like?

  5. The Guardian’s picture is to illustrate the train ride its correspondent took; it’s got nothing to do with the proposed mine.

    The actual site looks to me to be about 100 hectares, of which about half is wooded. I suppose the 4.5 hectares is the area of trees they plan to fell.

  6. Is the “100 hectares of forestry” ancient woodland? Or is it the sort of conifer plantation that the Nurdgaia would otherwise excoriate as a blight marching brutally across our fair land?

  7. Paul,

    The Guardian’s picture is to illustrate the train ride its correspondent took; it’s got nothing to do with the proposed mine.

    Really? Then why is this the caption from that picture:

    Westerdale in the North York Moors … ‘Now they want to dig up this achingly lush landscape for some potash, a fertiliser ingredient.

    rather than, as an example, “Gorgeous views from the Esk Valley Railway”.

  8. SE: the caption says that the picture is of Westerdale, as I suppose it is. The rest of it is a quotation from the article, which is why it’s in quote marks.

    It wouldn’t have been difficult to get hold of a picture of the actual site, so I think it quite possible that this one was chosen as a sly dig at the absurdity of the article.

  9. He believes the move away from Quangos is anti-democratic. Seriously folks.

    Oh and frequent use of the phrase ‘neo-liberal’ = leftist moonbat

  10. Describing the N.Yorkshire moors as ‘lavish’?

    Not the words I’d use…
    Bleak, windswept, boggy, insipid.
    I don’t think anyone who spends any time on there (as I do quite a bit) would mourn the passing of a few acres of scrubland.

  11. ” I think it quite possible that this one was chosen as a sly dig at the absurdity of the article”
    Oh, fuck off Paul. It’s the standard Guardian practice of using ‘arty’ photography to illustrate its articles. Wouldn’t even bet on it being Westerdale. Could just as well be New Zealand. It’s not as if they don’t have considerable form for this.

  12. I once had to courier some seals for a hydraulic system to an open cast coal mine up there. When the mine closed, they filled the hole back in with the spoil, landscaped it, and you cannot tell it was ever there. Presume the same will be done here.

  13. Had a look at the project. It’s up there on the Sirius website. The ‘jounalist’ presumably didn’t or as it is a disgusting capitalist company didn’t believe it.

    Frankly the care they plan to take, makes the whole article irrelevant..(in the very best of cases)

    Is it too much to suspect no skullduggery from our favourite organ?

  14. bloke in spain: calm down, it’s only a picture. Why is it so important to you to be rude about the subs? They didn’t write the stupid article.

    The Guardian’s used the picture before, to illustrate an article questioning the wisdom of the EU’s decision to ban the use of a particular herbicide which happens to be useful for controlling bracken on the moor.

    The photograph comes from this agency, described as “Westerdale with Heather in bloom August North York Moors National Park”. So no, it couldn’t just as well be New Zealand.

  15. Actually it could just as well be New Zealand for the use it is. Westerdale is a dale in the west-centre of the moors, Sneaton is a boring patch of non-moorland near the eastern end of the National Park which is only included because it wasn’t deemed worth the effort of excluding it; it has a commercial conifer plantation because the land isn’t good enough to farm profitably: Westerdale is more like New Zealand than Sneaton.
    The Boulby potash mine is stated to cover 200 hectares of the same National Park – more than 40 times as much – but that was approved by Harold Wilson’s Labour government so that doesn’t count does it?

  16. I thought the evil industrialists had already wrecked the British countryside by building railways and mines and factories. Surely the countryside can’t be wrecked twice?

  17. I can’t see a field without wondering whether it wouldn’t be improved by a bit more artifice. A car park, for instance. Or some spacious housing. Hmmm…

  18. If it’s so ‘achingly beautiful’ what’s the railway doing there? No one can can a stretch of BR track ‘beautiful’. Oh! I see, it’s the perspective from which one sees the landscape.

  19. Nick Luke

    BR what’s that and I take it you’ve not seen the Settle & Carlisle line then ? With its sweeping curves through the landscape and amazing structures like the Ribblehead viaduct, Wordsworth fulminated against the encroachment of railways into ancient landscapes – as though they had always remained static – lines like the S&C are part of that landscape now. It’s rather funny to think of Mr. Lenin’s Tomb and crusty old Willy W being brothers under the skin.

  20. Evil tories shut down mines in north. But evil tories also open mines in north. Therefore, Tories are doubly evil.

  21. PST
    My pleasure.
    Regular insults are free but there is a small charge for gratuitously offensive ones. It’s the cost of the venom, you see. Not easy to get decent venom these days. So much gets used over in the CiF comments.

  22. PST: no doubt you find it comforting to have a rhetorical device in mind for those occasions, evidently frequent, when the facts are against you.

    However, I’m surprised that the two of you should react so strongly to my whimsical suggestion that the Guardian’s caption-writer might know what a tree looks like.

  23. @ Fred Z #26
    That does not look like a mine – it looks like opencast workings. A mine, by definition, is a hole in the ground.

  24. But it’s called open cast mining, so therefore it’s a mine.

    Tim adds: What Fred was showing is indeed an open cast mine. What they intend to do in Yorkshire is “in situ leaching” which is really very different.

    Liquefy it underground, pum it up and off to Teeside for processing.

    You’ll see only that bit on the 4.5 hectares, plus the pipeline. No slag piles, no scars in the ground, no holes.

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