Well done Seumas

Such wondrous logic about the Falklands.

Self-determination requires a recognised and viably independent people,…….(…)….But since the Falklands war, its legacy has entrenched an unsustainable £75m-a-year Ruritanian absurdity in the south Atlantic…..(….)…..the future of the islands is put in the hands of the tiny British settler population, most of whom weren\’t born there but are subsidised to the tune of £44,856 a head to keep them in the Rhodesian retro style to which they are accustomed?

Apparently people on government handouts don\’t get the right to self-determination.

That pretty much fucks the Labour vote here at home then doesn\’t it?

23 thoughts on “Well done Seumas”

  1. Isn’t he also implying that only people born in the UK should be able to vote?
    Has he thought of joining the BNP?

  2. And, we’ll note, Britain is not refusing to negotiate with Argentina. It is refusing bi-partite negotiations which ignore the Falkland Islands government. Which is all Argentina are offering.

    Please also note – the Falkland Islands are essentially, now self funding on their squid fishing licences. Apart from defence which, frankly, wouldn’t be needed if the Argentinian government weren’t so monotonously macho about the whole thing.

    I was down there last year and it is all really quite sad – especially the Argentinian cemetery outside Darwin / Goose Green.

  3. The Pedant-General

    “but are subsidised to the tune of £44,856 a head to keep them in the Rhodesian retro style to which they are accustomed?”

    And if we are worried about subsidy figures like that on a national scale, there goes the upcoming Scottish Independence referendum…

  4. No doubt the reason the Argentinians are so keen to get their hands on the Islands is that they want to subsidise them.

    On the other hand it could be the oil.

    Funny how war for oil is bad if George Bush does it, but good if some Socialist nutter from Latin America is threatening to do the invading.

    Argentina has plenty of hydrocarbons of its own, but having screwed up the management of them wants to do the same to Las Malvinas.

    Argentina could have 80% as much shale gas as the USA yet it is importing LNG.

  5. It still amuses me that many on the Left backed a Fascist military state against the UK. They really will support anyone against their own country, literally anyone.

  6. Rob – There must be some regimes even our risotto-eating radicals wouldn’t support. The USA under a Republican president, for example.

  7. >Please also note – the Falkland
    >Islands are essentially, now self
    >funding on their squid fishing licences

    Well over 50% of the squid is then sold to Europe’s great national of squid lovers – Spain.

    Spain of course supports Argentina’s claim over the Falklands, partly for reasons of cultural affinity but mainly because of its own claim to Gibraltar.

    On the other hand, the people running the companies buying the squid would much rather negotiate with the British than the Argentines, on the basis that anyone buying or selling anything would rather negotiate with the British than the Argentines.

  8. He’s complaining about a government subsidy keeping the islands going, when his own paper is kept going on money from public sector job adverts.

    What an utterly smug little shit.

  9. many on the Left backed a Fascist military state against the UK

    well, it met all the other criteria, y’see:

    1.anything a tory does is wrong
    2.anything the british do in their own interests is wrong
    3.anything done that results in winning is wrong

    frankly, I’m only amazed that they managed not to find grounds for supporting nazism. After all, they managed to support stalinism (because he lost).

  10. to keep them in the Rhodesian retro style to which they are accustomed?

    I’ve never been to the Falklands, although my father nearly ended up at the bottom of the South Atlantic, but can someone who has tell me – how many disenfranchised indigenous inhabitants are there in Stanley? Or is it the penguins that are the oppressed majority?

  11. frankly, I’m only amazed that they managed not to find grounds for supporting nazism.

    They did. Right up until Hitler invaded Russia, the communist left in Britain was ambivalent at best and pro-Germany at worst.

  12. What’s that award for journalism?

    Seamus should definitely be right up there.

    Such a small piece but so much hypocrisy on so many levels…

  13. how many disenfranchised indigenous inhabitants are there in Stanley?

    None. Remember, we invented the concentration camp. They’re all held in secret locations amidst the wilderness of West Falkland (which, it has to be said is pretty much all of West Falkland.)

    Or is it the penguins that are the oppressed majority?

    Well, I failed to see any of those sneeky buggers either. We’ve probably brainwashed them in to acting as the camps’ guard force.

  14. [i]frankly, I’m only amazed that they managed not to find grounds for supporting nazism.[/i]

    From Molotov-Ribentropp to Barbarossa, they did. “Brother Socialisms” and all that.

    When I retire (around 2167 I imagine) I shall trawl the microfilm archives of the various Commie house newspapers from the UK, NL, CH, FR etc and write a paper on Communist portrails of National SOCIALIST Germany during the period in question.

  15. When I worked in Buenos Aries last year was taken by how European it was. Not just the architecture, which really shows a European heritage, but the people are obviously of European descent.

    Well the middle class and wealthy anyway. I didn’t see that many indigenous people in professional jobs or managerial positions. It got wondering why there isn’t a big world movement supporting the rights of the indigenous people.

    Perhaps those of European descent aren’t white enough and the indigenous black enough to attract the likes of Seumas? Anyway, the irony of those of European descent laying claim to the Falklands is obviously lost on Seumas and his fellow travelers.

    Tim adds: Re the Argentine indigenes. They were deliberately and successfully wiped out. A genocide to rank with the Caribs and Arawaks….much greater than the Cherokee or Sioux.

  16. You find indigenous people in Argentina right up in the Andes. You don’t find them in any significant numbers anywhere else. However, Argentina is not a mountain country. Almost all the population population (and of everything else, pretty much) is on the Atlantic coast.

  17. So Much for Subtlety

    abacab – “When I retire (around 2167 I imagine) I shall trawl the microfilm archives of the various Commie house newspapers from the UK, NL, CH, FR etc and write a paper on Communist portrails of National SOCIALIST Germany during the period in question.”

    Manchester University has the archives of the British Communist Party I believe. I am sure they thinned them out before handing them over, but remember to have a look at those too.

    19 SimonF – “Perhaps those of European descent aren’t white enough and the indigenous black enough to attract the likes of Seumas?”

    I liked one of the comments about the new Pope being that he was basically Italian anyway. Which I suppose, like many Argentinians, he is. Which is also no doubt why so many Argentinians would love to be part of the EU and have Germany run their monetary policy too.

    “Tim adds: Re the Argentine indigenes. They were deliberately and successfully wiped out. A genocide to rank with the Caribs and Arawaks….much greater than the Cherokee or Sioux.”

    Not to mention the Argentinians killed two birds with one stone. Literally. They forcibly conscripted all the freed slaves and sent them off to the pampas to kill Indians until few of either community was left. No Blacks either.

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