But we know that fat birds do

Strange little piece today:

Young mothers are often thought to be at an advantage when it comes to getting back in shape after pregnancy.

But in fact women who have babies in their teens are significantly more likely than older mothers to become obese later in life, research shows.

Those who had their first child aged 19 or younger were a third more likely to be very overweight, it found.

Significantly fewer women who gave birth in their teens were of normal weight than those who had babies later.

Yes, they do correct for background and income (ie, class). However, what they don\’t seem to correct for is heft at the time of getting pregnant. Which is something of a mistake. For as everyone who has ever been out on the pull knows a few extra pounds on her vastly increases your chaces of a legover. The reason being that this mating game really is a market and you\’ve got to play a market by purveying your asseets as best you can. Some slim little knockout is able to insist on certain male behaviour before rumpy pumpy. The fat bird with spots has less to negotiate with: therefore we know (and it has indeed been proven) that the fat birds are more likely to be having sex without condoms. This can indeed lead to preggoness but I wouldn\’t argue that that is what is driving these numbers. Rather that this less to negotiate with is going to lead to earlier pregnancy.

22 thoughts on “But we know that fat birds do”

  1. So Much For Subtlety

    They are not controlling for a whole lot of things. In the US they are not controlling for race which is just idiotic.

    But in the UK they are not controlling for those who want to get and keep a quality man with some education and those who just want the welfare a sprog brings – followed by a more, shall we say, quantity oriented approach.

  2. @SMFS, that is because, as we all know, race does not exist in Leftistan. Please report for re-education.

  3. From the abstract

    We performed multinomial logistic regression adjusting for survey cohort, age at survey, race, education, and parity.

    No doubt SMFS will post a grovelling apology.

  4. This is one of those pieces of research, poses a mystery of it’s own.

    The conclusion is one of those pig obvious ones that pretty well anyone who isn’t an academic researcher or called Tammy Chang hadn’t arrived at somewhere in their early 20s by observation. The reasons are likely to be as diverse as the subjects, as Tim suggests above. The information revealed is not going to make the slightest difference to either teenage pregnancy or later life chubbies.

    It would actually make more sense to look at the statement “Young mothers are often thought to be at an advantage when it comes to getting back in shape after pregnancy.” & ask who these thinkers are.

    But one supposes it keeps academics from going hungry so…

  5. Those who had their first child aged 19 or younger were a third more likely to be very overweight,

    Yes, they do correct for background and income (ie, class).

    Bet you still get outliers. Coz I bet that the number of middle class gels getting knocked up at 19 or under is a lot smaller overall, which means that the incidence of other things within the sample, even when scaled up – eg obesity – is going to be higher too. I suspect that bulimia is too, and the only reason that anorexia isn’t is cos it has a contraceptive effect.

  6. It would actually make more sense to look at the statement “Young mothers are often thought to be at an advantage when it comes to getting back in shape after pregnancy.” & ask who these thinkers are.

    Anecdotally, I agree with this statement. The strongest statement I can make is that, judging by my friends, mothers find it harder to lose weight after the third or fourth baby than after the first. Most do lose the weight, but it takes longer and is harder work. That could be because of multiple kids or because of the mother’s age.

    Now looking just at mothers of one or two children, those of my slim friends who had babies in their 20s lost the weight quickly. Those who waited until their 30s to have babies took longer, and needed to work harder at it.

    This is anecdote only…

  7. @Sam
    Exactly why I posed the question. You are obviously the right sort of thinker for researchers called Dr Tammy Chang & win a prize (participating in another survey). Those of us who notice girls who get knocked up in their teens spend large portions of their lives sprawled in front of the TV in synthetic jogging suits surrounded by squalling rugrats do not.

  8. @bloke in spain:

    Well, quite. Are you comparing women who get pregnant at 40 with similar women who get pregnant at 30 or 20, or are you comparing the set of women who actually do get pregnant at whatever age.

    The first is mildly useful, in that it tells a given woman whether, from a weight loss point of view, it makes much difference when she has children, although when compared to the other factors controlling when she should have children, this one probably does not weigh heavily.

    I suppose the second might be vaguely interesting if you’re a sociologist.

  9. Hey! Jo(h)nathan Piss

    Is this not thuggish?

    Fat birds, and that? Where are you with your damnation on this supposed colectivist vision of child bearing females?

    Where is So Mother Fucking Shit to defend his ‘thug’ instinct?

  10. Arnald, how’s the musical career going? Last I heard you were begging for investment – very capitalist! Did you get anywhere?

  11. Please cite references about me “begging for investment”. I would love to see the source.

    And whenever did I say capitalism is wrong?

  12. This Us Is is Lawrence Aegerter, who cites among his influences The Cure and 80′s Goth but mainly Cardiacs.

    All of the music is created by Lawrence alone, and he would be interested in hearing from anyone who could help him realise his songs in public. He can be contacted at

    I am Lawrence
    Please like my music
    It really is quite easy to play
    And I

  13. Mmmm…
    So Arnald likes the Cure. He has hidden depths. Certainly like the Cure myself & have all their recordings.
    But
    The secret to being a Cure connoisseur is to enjoy the music *without* being influenced by it. In that direction live strange psychoses , as is demonstrated

  14. But I wasn’t asking for investment. Just some musicians.

    Good tunes though 🙂 even if I had to force them through a 10 year old laptop with even older software.

  15. So in three years you haven’t been able to find anyone happy to spend time in the same room as you? That is surprising.

    I suppose it cuts out the bit where you all have a massive punch up and blame it on musical differences, though.

    What was the story with Solar Resources Ltd? Family firm?

  16. “Good tunes though…”
    Killing An Arab?
    Fire In Cairo?
    Maybe not the sort of CD one would want to be flying into the Middle East with, though.
    Or Pornography but Torture might go down well.

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