This isn\’t a fucking loophole you twat

Hundreds of thousands of people living abroad are able to claim pensions in this country despite never having worked here, it emerged last night.

Pensions Minister Steve Webb said huge numbers of people were exploiting a loophole in the law that allows them to claim a so-called spouse\’s pension even if they have made little or no national insurance contributions.

Dear Lord the stupidity of some people.

You get the spouse\’s pension because you are the spouse of someone who has paid national insurance. That\’s built into the design of the damn system.

Just to change the subject a little. Mr Webb\’s wife (or husband, who knows these days?) will, when he pops his clogs, get a widow\’s (or widower\’s) pension from both the MP\’s scheme and also the Ministerial scheme.

This is despite the fact that Mrs. Webb (or the second Mr. Webb) has never done a day\’s worth of MPing or Ministering.

It\’s a loophole I say! How can anyone get a pension without having paid into the pension scheme?

Fuck off you miserable Tory twat.

9 thoughts on “This isn\’t a fucking loophole you twat”

  1. Meanwhile, My father who was “stupid” enough to retire to Canada, after paying National insurance for about 45 years, does not get inflation increases in his pension, because apparently he lives in the wrong country. So his income decreases each year.

    Now the Canadian tax payer, is topping up the income of someone who has never paid income tax in the country.

    When Gordon Brown was petitioned by a group representing such expatriate retirees, he apparently agreed that it was unfair, but declined to change the system “because it would cost too much”.

    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pensions/article-1709959/The-state-pension-British-people-living-overseas.html

  2. So Much For Subtlety

    I would guess this is dog whistle politics. What people mean is that too many immigrants have come to this country – too many brown immigrants at that – and are leaching off the tax payer. I bet if you said that they were widows living in France no one would care. But if you said they were widows living in Pakistan or Jamaica, they would.

    Which simply goes to prove the obvious – a welfare state is not possible in a racially heterogeneous society. As we no longer look like Sweden used to, and we increasingly look like Brazil does, we will move from closer to one to closer to the other.

    So invest in armed response security and helicopter manufacturers.

  3. Hundreds of thousands of people living abroad are able to claim pensions in this country despite never having worked here, it emerged last night.

    I am not sure why the words “living abroad” are included in this sentence.

  4. I think your post might be redundant. I read his comment and immediately thought “hmm, a spouse’s pension. Could that have something to do with being married to the person who…?” And fuck me; it does!!!

    Is he one of the cretins in Westminster to whom Nigel Farage was referring?

  5. I know people in South Africa, Serf, who’ve maintained a UK address so that they got the increases. I don’t see those kind of porkies as fraud, quite the opposite, they remedy a wrong.

  6. “You get the spouse\s pension because you are the spouse of someone who has paid national insurance. That’s built into the design of the damn system.”
    …but why is it like this? Since 1980-something-or-other women have been taxed independently, and contributed to national insurance independently. Women can get NI credits for periods when they are ‘caring’. So why should they get a pension FROM THE STATE when they have made no NI contributions.
    If my wife and I both work and subsequently retire, when I die does the STATE pay her my pension on top of her own? No.

    If the wife were in the UK, then I would have no problem with her claiming state support if she has no other means. However, if she is in Foreign, then Foreign should be supporting her.

    I accept that the situation is very different for people who contributed at a time when a man was expected to support his wife throughout her life, and similarly for women who were caught in the trap as the previous rules changed.

    Private pensions, which are paid out of a fund, are also a special case. But the NI ponzi should not be supporting these people.

    If I am missing the point, I’d appreciate some information on the topic.

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