This just in from Mr. Warner

Europeans don’t really understand markets, and in particular they don’t seem to get that attempting to bend them to a particular political purpose is a contradiction in terms. This is one of the things that separates Britain from the rest in a way that may never be bridgeable. Culturally and temperamentally, we are different.

Ain\’t that the truth.

Time to leave, eh?

2 thoughts on “This just in from Mr. Warner”

  1. Culturally and temperamentally, we are all different. Not just us British from the rest of the Europeans, but amongst all the other Europeans too. The French are different from the Germans. Italians are not the same as the Danes. Etc….

    We’ve seen how the multi-culturism experiment by Labour has become a whole mess of dog-poo. The EU is an attempt to do the same at a larger scale. So it will be an even mess of dog-poo. Or in other words, an experiment which is more likely to lead to wars and conflict than what the right-on progressive liberals thought at the start. But then anything a politician comes up with always has unintended consequences.

  2. Tim

    Happily Google did its stuff and I remembered this exchange from 18 months ago (I was also on the link so it stuck in my mind)

    https://www.timworstall.com/2011/10/03/so-on-this-debating-europe-on-the-ftt-thing/

    Where you effectively blew away the rationale for any FTT.

    The central point of Warner’s article could be applied across almost any field in which the EU has competence. Oddly, the sole continental Politician of any stature to realize this at any point in the past 50 years was the late General De Gaulle:

    ‘England in effect is insular, she is maritime, she is linked through her exchanges, her markets, her supply lines to the most diverse and often the most distant countries; she pursues essentially industrial and commercial activities, and only slight agricultural ones. She has in all her doings very marked and very original habits and traditions.

    In short, the nature, the structure, the very situation (conjuncture) that are Englands differ profoundly from those of the continentals. What is to be done in order that England, as she lives, produces and trades, can be incorporated into the Common Market, as it has been conceived and as it functions? For example, the means by which the people of Great Britain are fed and which are in fact the importation of foodstuffs bought cheaply in the two Americas and in the former dominions, at the same time giving, granting considerable subsidies to English farmers? These means are obviously incompatible with the system which the Six have established quite naturally for themselves.

    The system of the Six — this constitutes making a whole of the agricultural produce of the whole Community, in strictly fixing their prices, in prohibiting subsidies, in organising their consumption between all the participants, and in imposing on each of its participants payment to the Community of any saving they would achieve in fetching their food from outside instead of eating what the Common Market has to offer. Once again, what is to be done to bring England, as she is, into this system’

    These wholly prophetic words were dismissed at the time as a massive snub – It says much about how mythical a ‘Golden Age’ the 1970s were (and it says much that the likes of Murphy, Toynbee and Reed look back to it with such nostalgia), that these words, to me wholly complimentary were in fact taken as an insult by the dismal politicians running the show at that time. The General was in fact almost preternaturally prescient in his anticipation of the problems that would bedevil UK/EU relations in the next 40 years. If only we had listened!

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