The latest Pilgerism

The forcing down of Bolivian President Evo Morales\’s plane – denied airspace by France, Spain and Portugal, followed by his 14-hour confinement while Austrian officials demanded to \”inspect\” his aircraft for the \”fugitive\” Edward Snowden – was an act of air piracy and state terrorism.

Err, no, no it wasn\’t.

Nations have the right to limit access to the airspace above said nation. Just like they have the right to limit access to their territory in any other manner. Checking passports at Dover is not piracy: nor is allowing, or not allowing, overflight rights. It just ain\’t.

12 thoughts on “The latest Pilgerism”

  1. So Much For Subtlety

    It doesn’t look like the French plane was forced down in any normal sense. Not in the sense that the French captured the leadership of the Algerian FLN by sending up jets and making it land on threat of being blown out of the sky. Nor was it forced down in the manner of the Russian’s dealing with Korean Airlines.

    It looks to me like France, Spain and Portugal all closed their air space to the plane. Which they have a perfect right to do. And so it landed in Austria because it needed to refuel.

    Big frickin’ deal.

  2. I am sure if it was some jihadi being removed by the yanks he would have complained if the airspace had not been blocked.

  3. Would not the airoplane have diplomatic immunity?
    Apart feom showing the country doing the forcing as a servile poodle.

  4. Diplomatic immunity is extended to diplomats in post and en route.

    There is sovereign immunity, but this is really about prosecution (and civil claims), as they extend to an individual head of state. I dont think there is protection extended to the vehicle in which they travel. Although I do wonder about (say) Air Force One.

  5. AIUI the immunity extends to the vehicle.

    The premises of the mission, their furnishings and other property thereon and the means of transport of the mission shall be immune from search, requisition, attachment or execution. – Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations 1961

  6. The Yanks certainly seem happy to claim immunity over their millions in unpaid congestion charge… 🙂

  7. Maybe not an act of piracy, but we can at least be thankful that the Americans have come round to our position on the right of the Royal Navy to inspect US ships for deserters. If only this had occured 202 years ago the War of 1812 would have never happened!

  8. …Assuming of course that allegations that this was done on US instructions are not a load of tin foil hat style allegations.

  9. There must be >1 plane above European airspace right now, indeed every minute of every day, with wanted alleged criminals on board. Some of them will even contain alleged criminals wanted by the USA.

    Why are they granted overflight rights?

    And at what altitude does the overflight sovereignty stop? Can Russia insist the USA doesn’t overfly its spy satellites, and vice versa?

  10. In any case, congratulations to the USA’s PR dept. for making the story about Snowden instead of unlawful and unaccountable mass surveillance programmes. Trebles all round.

  11. So if we leave the EU we can force all European planes to land for inspection at, say, Scunthorpe. Hmm.

  12. “Er, no it wasn’t.”

    My reply to your extremely cogent argument:

    “Er, yes it was.”

    You appear to have overlooked the hugely salient fact that the plane was occupied by the president of another country.

    I wonder what would make a respected blogger with a respectable following, go all out to make a prat of himself.

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