Facepalm

Regardless of whether or not scientists are wrong on global warming, the European Union is pursuing the correct energy policies even if they lead to higher prices, Europe’s climate commissioner has said.

Ergh.

“I personally have a very pragmatic view.

“Say that 30 years from now, science came back and said, ‘wow, we were mistaken then now we have some new information so we think it is something else’. In a world with nine billion people, even 10 billion at the middle of this century, where literally billions of global citizens will still have to get out of poverty and enter the consuming middle classes, don’t you think that anyway it makes a lot of sense to get more energy and resource efficient,” she said.

“Let’s say that science, some decades from now, said ‘we were wrong, it was not about climate’, would it not in any case have been good to do many of things you have to do in order to combat climate change?.”

That’s not a pragmatic view, that’s an ideological view.

Doubling the price of energy only makes sense if a) climate change is real and dangerous and or b) there’s going to be a shortage of energy in the future.

As b) is most unlikely then if a) is also untrue then there’s really no point in it at all.

11 thoughts on “Facepalm”

  1. The EU Commissioner is doing UKIP’s campaigning for them.

    Without cheap energy and free markets, those extra billions will never get out of poverty.

  2. I find it difficult to believe that somebody can be so stupid.

    At my age (not telling, but I’ve been around some time), it hurts to realise that our lords and masters are venial, thick, liars and/or worse and that it took me this long.

    Like the American woman (Alison Benedikt) who says I am evil for having sent my children to a private school in Spain (not such a great deal here, but it is my choice and my expenditure. I pay twice for education). I should sacrifice their future for my futures great grandchildren’s future. Unbelievable.

    The damage (economic and social) that current energy policies have caused and are going to cause is justified because maybe (with no indication of probabilities) maybe sometime in the future we might find that things are quite as we see them now.

    Maybe Martians will have invaded and Irán will have nuked the world. We should be building bomb-proof shelters for all. On yer bike, Connie you pathetic excuse for a politician.

  3. I think the good lady is trying to make the case, albeit badly, for a no regrets policy. In the clip posted by Tim

    This is of course a sensible policy regardless of whether climate change is or isn’t real. Of course the ludicrous nature of some of the current policies is insane.

  4. I think the good lady is trying to make the case, albeit badly, for a no regrets policy. In the clip posted by Tim she says

    “don’t you think that anyway it makes a lot of sense to get more energy and resource efficient”

    This is of course a sensible policy regardless of whether climate change is or isn’t real. Of course the ludicrous nature of some of the current policies is insane.

  5. “it makes a lot of sense to get more energy and resource efficient”

    But eschewing oil and gas etc, and using wind, solar and tidal power instead is the very opposite of getting energy and resource efficient, because those latter methods are incredibly *inefficient*.

  6. Looks like they’ve been tipped off that the upcoming IPPC reports is a crock of sh1t and hey need to get their retaliation in quick.

  7. It also makes sense if (C) you actively want recession and the impoverishment of the people.

    I was at a public debate where the leader of Scotland’s Green party, Robin Harper, explained that the reason the Greens had gone from “small is beautiful” to supporting the EU superstate was because they had recognised that the parasitism of EU bureaucracy was the only thing that could prevent the “continuous economic expansion” we were, then, suffering from.

    Clearly if that was enough to shift the entire movement their commitment to impoverishing the rest of us is very deep.

  8. This stupid person (I’m being all politically correct) says that it makes a lot of sense to be more energy and resource efficient and that it should be done by imposing taxes and controls and forcing people to change the way they live. Little do they realise that the world has been getting more energy and resource efficient by simple market forces without any real need for government to put it’s meddling oar in. The company that can save money by being more efficient makes more profit and beats those inefficient companies. Repeat, rinse, and repeat and you end up in an efficient world.

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