These crap seasonal jobs at AmazonDecember 2, 2013 Tim WorstallThe English23 CommentsAs in this piece. £6.50 an hour Amazon pays in South Wales. Guess who else takes on seasonal temps? Yup, Royal Mail. Paying £6.45 an hour in Swindon. Amazon are bastards and Royal Mail’s a national treasure that shouldn’t have been sold off. Go figure. previousAhahahahahahanextRitchie’s New Report! 23 thoughts on “These crap seasonal jobs at Amazon” MattyJ December 2, 2013 at 1:56 pm And without Amazon many of those Royal Mail temp positions probably wouldn’t exist. Martin Davies December 2, 2013 at 2:14 pm One benefits from tax credits topping up wages while the other…. oh wait, needs more tax credits. One requires staff to walk long distances in a shift while the other…. oh wait. Dongguan John December 2, 2013 at 2:22 pm There’s the old ‘jobs are a benefit not a cost’ nonsense in there too. Tim Almond December 2, 2013 at 2:48 pm £6.50 goes further in Swansea than Swindon. Swindon has better beer, Swansea has better seafood. Surreptitious Evil December 2, 2013 at 2:55 pm Well, that’s a right load of ‘not a world I understand’ bollocks. People have to travel an hour to work? Many Londoners would think that was luxury. Obviously not Guardian journalists, living in their Peoples’ Republic of Islington ghetto. “Agency workers are not Amazon employees”? Well, knock me down with a soggy feather. At least they’re not interns and expected to pay for the privilege. Job the same as in Sudan? Well, crap jobs are crap everywhere but I wonder which pays better? I can’t be arrsed to fisk this any more – and I have work to do. Dan December 2, 2013 at 3:11 pm I worked the Royal Mail xmas periods during my student years. It was, without a doubt, the shittest job I’ve ever had. The regulars fucking HATED the temp staff, as we were taking away from their potential overtime, and most of em totally blanked you out, wouldn’t answer your questions, etc. As a dopey teenager I didn’t really get why so many people were acting so shitty to me, as a grown man, I can say they were really were a bunch of petty bastards. Dan December 2, 2013 at 3:13 pm Also, can’t help but wonder if the Guardian hack thought, for even 2 seconds, about whether they might be doing someone of a weeks work, in order that they may shit out an article. Martin Davies December 2, 2013 at 3:31 pm I’ve done agency work in a parcel sorting base. Hard work, couple of breaks, agency staff getting less hours and less pay than permanent. I found something better after 3 weeks, wife stayed and became permanent for 3 years. Really there are lots of jobs around where staff have to work hard, meet targets, get penalised for sickness and so on. I loved agency work, some people hate it. Rob December 2, 2013 at 3:43 pm Ok Carole, hand over your iPhone, your iPad or iPod and all of those hideously consumerist things you posess but sneer at when others spend their own cash. It is their money to spend as they wish. Fuck off and live with it. Rob December 2, 2013 at 3:48 pm Some of my most boring jobs ever were temp/agency work. The alternative however was no work. In order to get a proper job you needed a track record of getting off your arse and getting stuff done. You can either do that or you can whine like Carole. Lots of those in South Wales where I grew up. Steve December 2, 2013 at 3:56 pm I do think it’s touching that this nice middle class woman whose day job involves lifting nothing heavier than a skinny latte decided to slum it among the proles for a week. Apparently they work for slightly above the national minimum wage. They also have to walk a lot, in a brightly lit, air conditioned warehouse. If they are habitually off sick, their evil employers let them go! They’re not even permanent staff members – why can’t Amazon fix it so it’s Christmas all year round? It’s Morlocks and Eloi I tell you. Also, there is no difference between working for Amazon in Swansea and having a similar job in the Sudan. Nope, none whatsoever. If only the evil Mrs Thatcher hadn’t abolished all the cushy jobs Welsh people used to enjoy in coal mines. In the good old days you would kiss your wife goodbye in the morning, cough up a blackened lung for lunch, lose a couple of friends to a cave-in in the afternoon, then spend your wages in the pub to the soothing tenor of a male voice choir. It was a fairer, gentler time than nowadays in these dark satanic mills where you’re expected to show up on time every day. And the Amazon cafeteria is probably woefully short of organic vegan fairtrade locavore options. john miller December 2, 2013 at 4:43 pm I couldn’t bring myself to read every word. I always think of the Guardian as the Billy Bragg of the written word. For years I thought Bragg lived in an East End terraced house. I should have known, but it came as a bit of a shock to see he lived in a luxurious manor house in a quaint country village near the sea, in the midst of thousands of Tory voters. Amazon is Evil because: It employs workers at only above the minimum wage It doesn’t pay any tax It has a funny group setup which may have some benefit on the tax situation. The Guardian is Good because It uses interns which it doesn’t pay, because merely working for the Guardian is reward enough It doesn’t pay any tax The guardian rents its offices from an offshore company I trust that’s all clear then. Interested December 2, 2013 at 5:22 pm @John Miller ‘I always think of the Guardian as the Billy Bragg of the written word.’ I know the early-retired gentleman sugar trader who lives next door to Billy. Those views don’t come cheap. He’s married to an aristo potter (is Bragg). A year or two back I heard (and recorded) him lamenting the fact that record companies were insisting on being involved in the record industry, and putting out CDs etc, when in these disintermediated times it was all so much easier, and artists no longer needed record companies or CDs, they could sell it all direct to the public via downloads and streaming etc. Not a thought for the poor record company A&R men (and to be less sarcastic, secretaries), or the people who work in the CD pressing plants, or the shops that (used to) sell them. Not that he’s a colossal fucking hypocrite or anything. All that said, Life’s a Riot was a great LP. I once saw him every night of a four-week Friday night residency at The Mean Fiddler in Harlesden. He was truly excellent. Supported byThe Redskins, who were brilliant, too. The left has all the best tunes (even if the lyrics are shite). john miller December 2, 2013 at 7:13 pm Thanks Interested, that was, how can I say this? umm, Interesting. Dave December 2, 2013 at 9:19 pm Whereas your discovery that Bragg doesn’t live in the terraced house of your imagination was… Fascinating? So Much for Subtlety December 3, 2013 at 12:24 am Interested – “The left has all the best tunes” No way! The may have some good tunes, but the Right has all the really good ones. I mean James Brown endorsed Nixon. Billy Bragg is not James Brown. He is not even an L. L. Cool J. Who is rumoured to be a Republican. Cream were good. In parts. Eric Clapton is, of course, an utter c*nt. But he has never backed down from his loud endorsement of Enoch Powell. Nor has David Bowie exactly explained away his fascination with Fascism. Keith Richards’ pathetic witterings aside, Mick Jagger appears to be a proper Tory and always has. There are plenty of members of the Who who sound Thatcherite these days. Maybe they always did a little. Certainly anyone who says “I look all White but my Dad was Black” ain’t going to win friends down the Guardian’s way. Witchsmeller Pursuivant December 3, 2013 at 8:49 am Brilliant stuff from the Daily Mash : http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/undercover-reporters-messing-up-your-amazon-order-2013120281613 bloke in spain December 3, 2013 at 10:36 am “Royal Mail’s a national treasure ” Why, when I read that am I reminded the postman from the sorting office, our area of London, was the bloke stashed couple million letters he couldn’t be arsed to deliver in his house? Over a period of several years. Without the RM noticing. National treasure. Right. Interested December 3, 2013 at 12:15 pm @john miller ‘Thanks Interested, that was, how can I say this? umm, Interesting.’ Well, the stuff about my interest in his music was a bit dull, granted, but evidence of his enormous hypocrisy was surely not. Essentially, one of the great socialist twats of the age – who was very prominent in the campaign (for instance) to keep open uneconomic pits – doesn’t seem to want to keep open uneconomic CD pressing plants and record labels. Change in the mining industry = bad. Change in the music industry = good. (It was in an interview with Kirsty Lang on Front Row, by the way.) @SMFS The Stones are shite, James Brown was off his head 95% of the time and would have endorsed a tree frog if asked, and LL Cool J is not Public Enemy. But even if they were any good, the weight of the industry is against you (though I suspect that a lot more of them might be right wing than they let on, at least as they grow up a bit). So Much for Subtlety December 3, 2013 at 8:19 pm Interested – “Essentially, one of the great socialist twats of the age – who was very prominent in the campaign (for instance) to keep open uneconomic pits – doesn’t seem to want to keep open uneconomic CD pressing plants and record labels.” But this is just proof of whatsits law – that everyone is most conservative about what they know. Or in this case, dosh trumps principle. It is easy for BB to support the miners. It costs him nothing. But more money in his pocket is another matter. “The Stones are shite” There is not a lot to say to that. “James Brown was off his head 95% of the time and would have endorsed a tree frog if asked, and LL Cool J is not Public Enemy.” Yeah JB probably would have. But it was part of a larger narrative that Brown followed all his life – that African Americans need to be self reliant. Part of the debate in the 19th and early 20th centuries about the direction of AA politics. As Brown sang, “I Don’t Want Nobody to Give Me Nothing (Open up the Door I’ll Get It Myself)”. It was not a drug-addled one off. Although as you say, L. L. Cool J is not Public Enemy. However, are we sure about the politics of PE? “But even if they were any good, the weight of the industry is against you (though I suspect that a lot more of them might be right wing than they let on, at least as they grow up a bit).” I am not sure. Music executives tend to be very left wing. But Rock itself is a very right wing enterprise I think. It is about freedom and self expression. About sexual desire. Above all it is about rock stars being better than everyone else. The first three can go either way but the last is very definitely not on the left. Even the pathetic Beatles were forced into a tax protest because they paid too much. Not very left wing that. Interested December 4, 2013 at 9:02 am I always find it amusing that Paul Weller sent his kids to private school and worries about them going Jafaican. “His five children (from three separate relationships) have all been educated privately, and two of them – Jessie and Mac – are still at school in north London. “They both go to posh schools with Range Rovers in the car park. I’m lucky I’ve got enough money to do it, and there’s very few state schools round my way I’d want to send my kids to. I guess you get what you pay for; my little lad’s only four and the other day he was counting in French.” Bruce Foxton’s son Iago apparently went to Eton. I think this sort of thing should be more widely known, because a generation of simpletons were influenced by Eton Rifles. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/changing-man-an-audience-with-paul-weller-1950369.html Surreptitious Evil December 4, 2013 at 12:45 pm Which part of it didn’t he get? It wasn’t intended as a jolly drinking song for the cadet corps. Artist demands that people only enjoy his art in the way he intended? Smirks. Somebody who has no idea of the institutional cynicism and irony ingrained in even the most junior bits of the military 🙂 Mind-you, considering the other songs we sang in the CCF (a long way from Eton, it has to be said), a bitter lefty protest jingle would be much less offensive. See, for example, “The Ball of Kirriemuir”. But I can entirely see a bunch of tired, hungry, soggy cadets, somewhere on Dartmoor, ‘singing’ along to “Hello-hurrah, I’d prefer the plague, to the Eton Rifles.” KJ December 15, 2013 at 3:32 pm Currently doing agency work in a factory (just above min. wage, £6.60 an hour), doing exactly the same job as permanents for 2 quid an hour less and treated like shit on the shoe of both perms (not all, but many) and management. I’ll be finished next week, just in time for xmas. Still, beggars can’t be choosers, I guess. . 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