Europe today

The Jewish participants were “absolutely unprepared for such a reception,” Yardeni told the news agency AFP. ”Jews are now being chased away from a demonstration against anti-Semitism,” she added.

26 thoughts on “Europe today”

  1. Tim – it’s useless to report stuff like this without mentioning who is doing the anti-Semitism.

    The Beeb reported recently on French footballers making anti-Jewish gestures (the ‘quenelle’), inspired by a French “comedian”. They coyly suggested that Jew-hatred “wasn’t confined to the far right”, but no mention of the word “Muslim”.

    All of the people involved in the quenelle controversy appear to be Muslims. This hatred was imported.

  2. The demonstration was caused by anti-Gay and anti-Semitic graffiti, The demonstrators were probably only concerned about the former not the latter. The famous Niemöller trope is quickly forgotten.

  3. No, there are lots of Muslims involved in French anti-Semitism but it goes far further than that. The Quenelle has also been very popular among (white) French service people. France has a deep, long-standing problem with anti-Semitism. It really does go back to Dreyfus.

  4. Anyone want to jump in here and remind us Yanks about how sophisticated, tolerant and civilized you Euros are?

    Extra points if you mention that the Holocaust was “way back when” and couldn’t happen again because of how sophisticated, tolerant and civilized Euros are today.

  5. The distance is at least two thousand miles.

    Just my way of reminding everyone of all the Euroweenie howling around here about Yankee savagery and European moral superiority a few weeks ago when Ohio put to death a man who’d raped and murdered a pregnant woman.

    If you’re gonna talk the talk, you should be able to walk the walk.

  6. Peter – I know there is still a hardcore fringe of neo nazi Jew-haters around, but from what I can gather, the great majority of anti-Semitic incidents in Western Europe these days involve Islam.

  7. Dennis-

    You’re still a bunch of uncivilised, dribbling barbarians. No amount of throwing your toys around- I appreciate that it is your manifest destiny to do so, but nonetheless- is going to change that.

    You live in a nation that only has three types of potato (white, red, and one that looks like a turd) and two types of cheese (one is called “cheese” and the other, “American cheese” is the sweepings of “cheese”). In terms of civilisation, you’re the embarrassing retarded cousin who touches himself at the dinner table. We know you can’t help it, but it’s still unpleasant.

    You can either keep moaning about how other people look at you, or just learn a few manners. Up to you, really.

  8. Dennis – if you confuse us with French Muslims we’ll have to confuse you with Mexicans. Proximity does not mean conformity.

  9. “…if you confuse us with French Muslims…”

    You misunderstand (naturally). You’re the smart, sophisticated ones… Europeans shouldn’t be having such problems, as you’ve been clever enough to fully and successfully integrate your minorities into the mainstream of Europe’s oh-so-superior society. This sort of thing should be happening over here – amongst the Barbarians – instead of over there – amongst the Civilized.

    One wonders why Muslims torch a thousand cars in one night – on an annual basis – in Paris rather than, say New York City. Right?

  10. Just remember O’Rourke’s Law, Ian: The vast majority of today’s Europeans are descendants of those Europeans who – 150 years ago – were too stupid, too lazy, or too corrupt to get on boat and come to the States.

    If we’re the uncivilized ones, how come you’re the ones eating haggis, blood pudding and escargot, and using a bidet when you need a bath? And has anyone in the UK actually ever gone to a dentist? Or even know what a dentist is?

  11. One other fact that undermines your case… and this one’s the crusher:

    Europe produced Richard Murphy, not the USA.

  12. Dennis, you’ve got it wrong.

    Most Americans are the descendents of those Europeans who were so useless or crazy that they had to leave. It’s what you get when you build an entire country out of lunatic religious maniacs and illiterate peasants.

    PS the world really is more than 6018 years old.

  13. As the venue is France, this seems neatly reminiscent of the large number of Dreyfussards who found Dreyfuss himself so embarrassingly bourgeois.

  14. So Much for Subtlety

    Steve – “All of the people involved in the quenelle controversy appear to be Muslims. This hatred was imported.”

    But this was the French equivalent of Peter Tatchell. Not a lot of French Muslims are going to march in an anti-homophobia parade, even if it means they can get to beat up on a Jew.

    It is interesting how small society is in Toulouse. The marchers recognised the head of the Jewish community there. Chanted against him by name. I know it is not the right thing to say, but this is the sort of community-based anti-Semitism that reflects a long vanished, smaller, more cohesive and warmer society. How many of us would now recognise the head of the Jewish community in our home town?

  15. The US was founded by people who ran away when Charles I persecuted them. My ancestors (and I have a family tree that proves it) stayed and fought.

  16. Ian B –

    Aside from Mr. Murphy himself, you are the master of uninformed generalizations.

    And don’t worry, no matter how much you abuse us, we’ll still be there to save your sorry asses the next time the Germans (or Russians) get pissy. It’s become a bit of a habit, you know…

  17. Witchsmeller Pursuivant

    Dennis –

    and don’t worry, no matter how much you abuse us, we’ll still be there to save your sorry asses the next time the Germans (or Russians) get pissy.

    Will you be late to the party again, once you’ve seen which way the war’s going?

  18. @ Dennis the peasant
    You are really really trying to get up our noses.
    The USA entered the War against Japan after Pearl Harbour and the war against Germany after Hitler declared war on the USA, by which time there was no realistic chance of Germany winning since it had lost the Battle of Britain and the British Fleet was gradually destroying the German. Woodrow Wilson entered WWI more than 18 months after it had ceased to be possible for the Central Powers to win.
    De Gaulle’s “Force de Frappe” was based on the assumption that he could not trust the USA to defend France, since it had conspicuously failed to do so when it had been needed.
    So let’s look at the last time the USA tried to fight the mother country – it indulged in an unprovoked and completely unjustified invasion of Canada so the Canadians (with no support from the British because it took too long to assemble and army and ship it across the Atlantic) sacked the capital of the USA.

  19. So Much For Subtlety

    john77 – “it indulged in an unprovoked and completely unjustified invasion of Canada so the Canadians (with no support from the British because it took too long to assemble and army and ship it across the Atlantic) sacked the capital of the USA.”

    If you think he is trolling – and I am not sure that is fair given the provocation – the solution is to stop feeding the troll.

    However the 1812 War broke out in 1812. The British Army, not the Canadian, burnt Washington in August 1814. Lots of time to raise soldiers. In fact I don’t think any Canadians took part.

  20. Canadians fought on both sides, SMFS, though only small numbers on the USA side. The pro-USA Canadian volunteers did play a major role in the burning of Newark and the resulting deaths of residents left homeless in the freezing winter. The British did retaliate for this atrocity by burning some evacuated towns on the USA side of the border.

    The burning of Washington was more a strategic decision in the hope that it would weaken USA resolve to continue the war. The burning was confined to government buildings and a house from which a British party, approaching under a flag of truce, were fired upon, the sort of dastardly act one would expect from uncouth colonials.

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