I could argue with this

Indeed I will argue with this:

The Conservatives should bring in shortlists for prospective MPs with equal numbers of male and female candidates to improve the gender balance in the party, one of David Cameron’s former cabinet ministers has said.

Caroline Spelman, a former environment secretary, said nobody could argue with a 50:50 gender split for candidates, and the party should not rule out the possibility of all-female shortlists.

Unthinking nonsense.

The question is not how many get elected: it’s how many, proportionately, wish to get elected. And yes, it does seem that more men would like to bray on the backbenches than women. The imbalance is therefore not that women are being treated unfairly but that women (probably quite rightly) just aren’t as into it as men are.

11 thoughts on “I could argue with this”

  1. I can’t recall anything Caroline Spelman has ever said or done that would make me want more Caroline Spelmans in Parliament.

    The Conservative Party may be behind the curve on “gender” equality, but it is leading the way when it comes to ensuring useless idiots are given a chance to become MP’s and spout their ignorant cockwaffle on the slimy green benches.

  2. So Much For Subtlety

    We have had almost four decades of affirmative action with everyone working hard to get more women into positions of power and influence. That is pretty much the life time of half the population.

    If they are not doing well on their own by now, it is time to ask some questions about skill, talent and as TW says motivation.

  3. Spelman’s not even a proper Conservative and therefore Dave should ignore her. Unfortunately Dave is not a proper Conservative either so he probably won’t ignore her.

  4. Women generally work in politics in different ways. Any time a hospital is going to close, it’s women manning the protests.

    I think it comes down to the systematizing/empathizing thing. Men see change systematically, so see the best way to make changes as being at systematic level, e.g. going into parliament.

  5. And why “gender” balance, and not other types of affirmative action too?

    Do we need all-LGBT shortlists, all-asian shortlists, all-ginger shortlists…?

  6. …the party should not rule out the possibility of all-female shortlists.

    Presumably she will support all-male shortlists, too?

    nobody could argue with a 50:50 gender split for candidates

    So you have a better chance of being an MP if you’re still pre-op? And would you then get deselected if you went the whole way? Raging dyke deselected following a strapadichtomy.

  7. If they are not doing well on their own by now, it is time to ask some questions about skill, talent and as TW says motivation.

    very little point. 90% of feminism as expressed in the public sphere is just marxism with the word ‘proletariat’ replaced by the word ‘women’. It’s another boring oppression narrative which goes

    – anything I don’t like is someone else’s fault
    – therefore I am being oppressed
    – claiming I’m not is ‘victim-blaming’
    – oppressed people are ipso facto morally superior to their oppressors

    the problem is that ceasing to be oppressed means losing that moral authority. Therefore you have to keep finding new ways in which you’re oppressed, and blaming everyone else for it.

  8. Needless to say, these people do not put this sort of practice into effect in their own lives.

    You will search in vain among the ministerial bodyguards for a black lesbian dwarf.

  9. The logical thing is to do away with short lists and all voting. The public seem to chose badly and many dont care.
    So the real thing would be to chose by lottery. Totally unbiased. Then the masses can get on with their sole real task – paying taxes ad lib. And not bothering their leaders.

  10. So Much For Subtlety

    Steve – “Do we need all-LGBT shortlists, all-asian shortlists, all-ginger shortlists…?”

    Oh, oh, oh – can I volunteer for the All-Furry Short list?

    (Not that I am, of course, whatever the Courts say, I just feel that they deserve some decent representation, but at a pinch I will do)

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