Erm, but why?

There is still a long way to go before the British public stops judging people by their looks, the broadcaster Fiona Bruce has said, as she unveils a new portrait of war veteran Simon Weston.

Humans are a visual species, stereoscopic and colour vision etc. Why should we stop thinking about things on hte basis of what they look like? It’s rather what we’re built to do…..

19 thoughts on “Erm, but why?”

  1. So Much for Subtlety

    So Ms Bruce is trying to hide her panic at her fading looks (and hence the interest of men) behind a wounded war veteran?

    I do not see the two cases are remotely connected. A soldier was terribly injured protecting us all. We should be ashamed to feel what is almost certainly an instinctive response to his wounds. Ms Bruce is a poppet who has made a career out of being a poppet and she pops no longer. I fail to see why anyone should care.

  2. SMFS

    Agree entirely. Give it 15 years and that piece with the legs on Coutdown will start complaining about women being judged by their looks.

    And for the women reading this: no, I’m not a sexist, I work alongside female colleagues who I judge completely on their merits. But then, my colleagues haven’t obtained their jobs through their looks. They are professional, they each have their charms as women, their abilities as professionals and put each in their rightful place.

    As for Fiona Bruce: smile sweetly dear; I’m looking at a valued antique.

  3. There is still a long way to go…

    Yes there is. Precisely the same distance that there’s always been and always will be. Fiona Bruce is mistaken in thinking that anything has changed, as her statement seems to suggest.

  4. “Why should we stop thinking about things on hte basis of what they look like? It’s rather what we’re built to do…”

    Because thinking things through rather than reacting animalistically is the difference between being homo sapiens or some lower life form like Ritchie. We’re ‘built’ to eat tasty food when we’re hungry, but if we’re walking past a baker’s shop and smell some tasty bread baking, then realise we’ve left our wallets at home, we won’t storm the shop and steal the bread.

  5. Dave, no-one is suggesting raping Fiona Bruce because she’s fit – only that she looks quite nice on the telly. It’s analogous to smelling the bread, not eating it.

  6. So Much for Subtlety

    Just in passing, let’s admire the intellectual genius of La Bruce:

    “The contradictions are still there [in society] which is why I think feminism is still very relevant for me and it’s just such a shame that it’s become a byword for mustachioed, man-hating women from Lebanon.”

    Although I do warm to any women who allows an article to be written about her called “I’m no Career B!tch”

  7. Interested>

    “no-one is suggesting raping Fiona Bruce because she’s fit”

    Including me. So that makes your point, what, a straw-man takedown?

    Just as we don’t go from ‘bread smells tasty’ to ‘eat bread’ without any thought, so we shouldn’t go from ‘Fiona Bruce looks tasty’ to ‘give Fiona a little Brucey bonus’ based purely on an endocrine response.

  8. Anyway, the whole point kind of falls down on the fact that Bruce is a five or six at best, so clearly didn’t get her jobs based on looks. Or, to put it in terms of the analogy, she’s just not that tasty.

    With as much money spent on slap, expensive haircuts, and designer jeans, the majority of women out there would look at least as good as Bruce.

  9. In most cases, newsreaders are essentially luvvies and their opinions should be treated in exactly the same way: ie – in most cases – roundly ignored.

    She’s not a two-bagger, that’s for sure, but distinctly average in the looks department.

  10. a byword for mustachioed, man-hating women from Lebanon

    Feminists in Lebanon? WTF? Has she been there? I’ve never seen so much plastic surgery and superficial gold-digging in my life!

  11. The only distinction is between people who will admit to judging people on their looks and those that won’t..

    And yes, the Weston thing isn’t really relevant to the Bruce thing. We feel horror at Weston’s injuries because, in part, they are horrific injuries. They are also slightly frightening, but once people have gone through the atavistic moment of fright they will also feel slightly guilty at their own reaction (doubly so if they know how the injuries were sustained).

    But as for the other, for myself, ceteris paribus, I prefer pretty girls to ugly ones. If anyone wants to disagree that’s fine, but I’ll probably think they’re a bit odd. Happily we all have different tastes, coz that’s what makes horse races, ain’t it?

  12. @Dave ‘Including me. So that makes your point, what, a straw-man takedown?’

    The straw man was yours, old bean – so in that sense, yes, I was taking down your straw man.

    Tim wrote:

    “Why should we stop thinking about things on hte basis of what they look like? It’s rather what we’re built to do…”

    You said:

    Because thinking things through rather than reacting animalistically is the difference between being homo sapiens or some lower life form

    and employed the following example:

    ‘We’re ‘built’ to eat tasty food when we’re hungry, but if we’re walking past a baker’s shop and smell some tasty bread baking, then realise we’ve left our wallets at home, we won’t storm the shop and steal the bread.’

    But Tim was not suggesting that it was natural for people to – if you prefer – ‘storm’ Fiona Bruce, but to enjoy her in a sensory capacity (‘looking at her’).

    That is analogous to your ‘smelling bread’.

    It wasn’t particularly complex.

  13. Interested>

    Yes, we’ve established you can’t understand at least one of basic English and basic logic. The link you’re pretending exists just isn’t there. Hence it’s a straw man you’ve erected.

    Sam>

    “(doubly so if they know how the injuries were sustained).”

    So, not bobbing for chips, then?

  14. So Much for Subtlety

    Tim Newman – “Feminists in Lebanon? WTF? Has she been there? I’ve never seen so much plastic surgery and superficial gold-digging in my life!”

    It took me a while, but I assume she confused Lesbos with Lebanon. Easily done. I am sure there is plenty of plastic surgery and superficial gold-digging on Lesbos too. They are, after all, all Ottomans.

  15. Bloke in Costa Rica

    If she’d said moustachioed man-hating feminists from Uganda, on the other hand, she be describing Yasmin Alibhai-Brown to a T.

  16. So Much for Subtlety

    Bloke in Costa Rica – “If she’d said moustachioed man-hating feminists from Uganda, on the other hand, she be describing Yasmin Alibhai-Brown to a T.”

    I don’t think that is fair. Ms Alibhai-Brown is too dumb to hate anyone. Instead she got a job as a fairly non-threatening non-White face, who was not going to call for Whitey to be slaughtered in his sleep while on the BBC, who could be relied on to churn out predictably banal copy on the fairly moderate evils of Whites, men and especially White men.

    If the path to success involved defending purda, the nikaab and female genital mutilation, I have no doubt she would have no problems producing endless articles praising all three. Because she is just not bright enough to have any ideas of her own.

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