Timmy elsewhere

At the ASI.

The particularly stupid idea of banning petrol engines.

11 thoughts on “Timmy elsewhere”

  1. So Much For Subtlety

    I don’t know. It could be worse. They could insist that car owners create more employment.

    By insisting someone walk in front of the car with a red flag for instance.

  2. @SMfS
    I though they’d already done that with cyclists. Dayglo Lycra’s the updated red flag. I’m presuming so, anyway. Surely those idiots can’t be riding for pleasure. it’s some sort of job creation scheme, isn’t it?

  3. You can tell that no-one takes climate change seriously by wandering through any city and seeing the sheer amount of ‘wasted’ vehicular fuel use. Ban all the buses and trucks from city streets (at least during the day) and we could all be whizzing around in little lightweight vehicles powered by 50-100cc motors (or the electric equivalent). We’d lose no function, it’d be cheaper, and it would ‘save the planet’.

  4. CO2 is not the only negative externality of internal combustion engines. Local air pollution (NOx, particulates, ozone, etc.) is a rather more pressing concern than the potential fate of far-away lands a century from now. Combustion engines also produce noise pollution; and of course heavy vehicles pose a danger to pedestrians and cyclists.

    That said, a ban is obviously foolish. Just tax whichever externality bothers people most – if we want fewer particulates in the air, then charge a tax based on particulate emissions. If we want quieter roads, tax the cars on decibels produced. Job done.

  5. The only viable (so far) electric car is one type that was mentioned on Samizdata blog some time ago. It has all electric drive but carries a small on board petrol engine to drive a jenny. When your battery gets to say 70% the jenny kicks in and recharges to 100%. It is reckoned 100 miles to the gallon is possible with this set up.

    Limp Dums aren’t agitating for that of course. They really are eco-scum.

  6. So Much for Subtlety

    bloke in spain – “I though they’d already done that with cyclists. Dayglo Lycra’s the updated red flag. I’m presuming so, anyway. Surely those idiots can’t be riding for pleasure. it’s some sort of job creation scheme, isn’t it?”

    You have given me an idea. Someone should suggest we replace internal combustion engine by cyclists. We could build three person bicycles and attach two of them to an old fashioned horse-drawn carriage. Just without any horses. It would make a great job creation scheme as well as being low carbon. Better yet, we could make young people ride the bicycles as part of a National Service scheme. Low carbon and plenty of jobs! Perfect.

    Someone tell me when the next Lib-Dem conference is. I am seriously thinking of joining and suggesting this idea. Expect to see it as part of the next Coalition platform.

    After all, at this point, the worse the better.

  7. If you include transmission losses and the losses from the marginal electricity generating plant, you are certain to find that the electric car generates more CO2 per mile than a petrol or diesel car *of the same size and power*. Do not be conned by comparisons of an electric version of a “Smart” car with a Cadillac or Jaguar limousine that ignores transmission losses between Colorado and LA.

  8. Here’s a crazy idea. Just leave cars and fuels alone so that people of limited incomes can enjoy their freedom of movement.

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