Get a sense of proportion would you?


  Sexism in Britain is more widespread than in any other country due to a ‘boys’ club culture’, a United Nations official has concluded.

Rashida Manjoo, a South African human rights expert, was charged by the UN Humans Rights Council to monitor violence against women in the UK and report back to them.

She warned that sexual bullying and harassment were now “routine” in UK schools, according to NGOs she had interviewed, and recommended that schools have mandatory modules on sexism.

Ms Manjoo shared her preliminary findings on Tuesday and said: “Have I seen this level of sexist culture in other countries? It hasn’t been so in your face in other countries. I haven’t seen that so pervasively in other countries. I’m sure it exists but it wasn’t so much and so pervasive.

“I’m not sure what gives rise to a more visible presence of sexist portrayals of women and girls in this country in particular.

Dear God. There are countries out there where it’s routine to slice the clitoris off young girls to make sure that they’ll not enjoy sex too much. Places where women are jailed for having the temerity to try to drive. Places where female babies are routinely aborted for there’s a preference for sons.

And we’re the sexists?

Please, you old bat, do fuck off.

23 thoughts on “Get a sense of proportion would you?”

  1. She appears to have been misquoted, probably not helped by her clumsy phrasing.

    She hasn’t said sexism is more prevalent in the UK than anywhere else. She complains of a more “visible presence of sexual portrayals” in the UK.

    By which I assume she is referring to Page 3 and lads mags etc.

  2. When I read an article in the Johannesberg Mail & Guardian by Samantha Forbes-Blythe introducing the population of Jo’berg to the views of Amanda Cave Cave, I may give Ms Manjoo one split-second of attention.

    Before that, not so much.

  3. She interviewed NGO’s then, did she? What about actual people.. y’know.. the various oppressed and oppressors in this viscous mysoginistic state of ours.. did she interview any of them? Or just people who are paid to find problems so that they can then be paid to try and fix them… and, in all cases, paid enough to sufficiently isolate them from the realities of the world where those apparent problems and solutions are playing out.

  4. “When you’re sitting on public transport and it’s OK to harass someone, to inappropriately touch them, it’s sexist culture,” she said.

    Okay, so that’s Japan sorted. Now, in the UK, they just get their picture taken. It’s a different definition of ‘touch’ they use in the UN, certainly.

    Interestingl,y the Bad Penny was declaiming on this:

    The same principle applies to eating on public transport: doing so is not considered “classy”.

    She is, for once, entirely correct. But then she links it to sexism. No, it isn’t ‘classy’ for anybody. Accepted for small children, sometimes necessary for adults. Possibly blokes are a little less bothered about keeping up appearances.

    You will also note Laurie has admitted to being one of Icke’s ruling lizard* class.

    I am trying to find a copy of the actual report to see what she actually wrote. I suspect she won’t have been too badly misquoted and I look forward to the Appendix listing all the micro-aggressions she was personally subjected to during her brief visit.

    * Okay, amphibian, at least.

  5. TTG – ” said her findings came from meetings with UK government officials, civil society organisation and individual survivors of violence” – yep, pretty darn biased. Don’t know how much was lost in journalism, of course, but someone’s spinning madly if being subjected to sexism leaves you a ‘survivor of violence’.

    Same for the categorisation of ‘taking photos of women eating on tube trains’ as harrassment. So not getting the way social media tends to cause avalanche effects. Tomorrow it’ll be men picking their noses on buses.

  6. My wife who used to watch a lot of Mexican TV, immediately said that she has obviously never been to Mexico (assuming that their TV reflects the sexism in Mexico to any degree of accuracy).

  7. The statements in the Torygraph article don’t really reflect the tone of the statements in the official summary (of the précis to the report that will come out next year) – as linked above.

    Whether they reflect what she briefed to Ms Sanghani, or other journos, I have no inside track.

  8. David – it’s all big burly guys wearing colourful gimp masks in Mexico. And sarcastic sombrero-wearing mice.

  9. She has been noticeably quiet on the subject of her presidents multiplicity of wives, illegitimate children, and sex with the daughter of a colleague who had HIV (and who was persecuted by ANC loyalists after his rape trial, to the extent she had to leave the country.)

  10. Bloke with a Boat

    Surreptitious Evil
    April 16, 2014 at 8:24 am

    All we are going to see of her report until June 2015.

    By which time the stuff quoted here will have been said so many times what the report actually says won’t matter.

  11. Remind me again, who elected Rancida Manjaw to boss us about and tell us what’s good for us?

  12. So Much For Subtlety

    She is right that there is a lot of open sexism in Britain. For instance, I was just thinking Ms Manjoo needs to shut the f**k up, get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich.

    I am pretty sure that something like 99.9% of the British population agrees with me.

  13. By which I assume she is referring to Page 3 and lads mags etc.

    Although the first thing I saw when I emerged from the Metro onto the Champs Elysees last Saturday afternoon was an 8’x4′ poster of a topless woman advertising some magazine or other. Don’t see that in London.

  14. Some people are so thick and antagonistic that one is almost bound to be not merely sexist, but ageist, racist, continentist and hemispherist towards them

  15. Another ‘Global human rights expert’ ,but you just know the likes of Jones, Toynbee, Alibhai- Brown, Penny and a dime a dozen other morons are likely to quote this ‘report’ as proof ad nauseam of ‘institutionalized sexism’ or ‘institutionalized misogyny’.
    We all know the accepted (and increasingly enforced by law) narrative. Britain is irredeemably racist, sexist, homophobic…. needs radical action, preferably accompanied by lots of bureacrats with gold-plated pensions… a Curajus state… etc,etc,etc. How does this even qualify as news?

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