Timmy elsewhereSeptember 5, 2014 Tim WorstallTimmy Elsewhere27 CommentsAt the ASI. Owen Jones doesn’t seem to know what the word “socialism” means. previousHeidi Moore does it againnextWell done to the Daily Mail here 27 thoughts on “Timmy elsewhere” Bloke in Germany September 5, 2014 at 9:56 am Socialism is “you have €1 more than me, that is evil, give it to me”. Steve September 5, 2014 at 10:14 am Bloke in Germany – old school socialism: “Capitalism is making you poorer! Socialism will create abundance!” New school socialism: “Abundance is evil and destroys the environment! Everybody will be happier when we force you to live like Tom and Barbara from The Good Life!” Rob September 5, 2014 at 10:31 am There’s a similar hatred of professional footballers commanding huge salaries. These are working class people who create huge revenues and receive their due reward, yet the Left utterly despises them, yet seem to have no issues at all with those who make millions in the music industry. Can anyone point me to an article from the Left denouncing Coldplay’s millions? I can only assume snobbery is the cause. Imagine, these uncouth louts earning millions for just kicking a ball around, while I only get £50k a year monitoring diversity for the local council! The Meissen Bison September 5, 2014 at 10:59 am Rob: Can anyone point me to an article from the Left denouncing Coldplay’s millions? I wish I could give you chapter and verse on this but not that long ago Adele discovered how much tax she was having to pay and had the temerity to express surprise and displeasure which brought down some hostility down upon her head. Musos as a whole tend to be lefty or at least ‘alternative’ while footballers are flashy and spend money liberally on things that are not approved of by the left. Ironman September 5, 2014 at 11:45 am Rob, agree totally on footballers. I’ve just written the same on the ASI site. Re Coldplay: I would be more than happy to write that article for you. Nothing to do with Chrtis Martin’s posturing; all about his shit music. BraveFart September 5, 2014 at 11:58 am It was a low point in one of the daily Scottish referendum debate TV programmes when we recently had to endure Owen Jones and Tommy Sheridan (sporting the deepest hue of orange skin ever seen on a human) on a panel spouting YES socialist bvllshit together and showing general worker solidarity tugging each other off. abacab September 5, 2014 at 12:13 pm So Our Owen (bless) is protesting the use of taxpayer’s money by the treasury to sue to… protect the vast swathes of taxpayer’s money that bonuses bring in due to the additional rate of which Our Owen clearly approves. Or does he think that the bonuses are in some way tax-free? Does he think at all beyond the prejudice-reinforcing soundbite? Let’s see… 2,714 bonuses of more than 1M. Let’s say the mean is about 1.25 (since the distribution will skew towards the lower end). So that’s 3.4 billion of bonuses. Tax due – Income tax @ 45% = 1.53 billion. NI (employee) @ 2% = 68 million NI (employer) @ 13.8% = 469 million. Total tax = just over 2 billion. Surely Our Owen should be hailing these stakhanovites as Heroes of Labour for their tax contribution? dearieme September 5, 2014 at 12:24 pm socialism = coveting + stealing Hugh September 5, 2014 at 1:15 pm MB, it’s just the metropolitan Lefty types who can’t stand footballers salaries. Fans usually think, good luck to them. Actors and musicians making millions is fine but not footballers. They won’t think Mise van der Rohe played for the 1974 Dutch World Cup squad. They have taste. Edward Lud September 5, 2014 at 1:27 pm I always assumed socialists were communists who didn’t want to cough to the fact, due to embarrassment over communism’s body count. Ironman September 5, 2014 at 1:41 pm BraveFart If Tommy Sheridan is still taken seriously in Scotland then maybe it’s time to rethink my Unionist views. mike fowle September 5, 2014 at 1:46 pm Is there anyone around with a more punchable face than Owen? Bloke with a Boat September 5, 2014 at 2:16 pm Its not just Owen who doesn’t understand Socialism. It appears that most Millenials in the USA don’t understand what it means either. The good news is that when it is pointed out that it means the end of private business and the State running all companies eg no Apple, Google etc, they turn out to be good free market supporters. http://www.cato.org/multimedia/daily-podcast/millenials-how-do-they-work Apparently its to do with not having lived through the cold war and misunderstanding something that is a social good as Socialism. BraveFart September 5, 2014 at 2:24 pm Mike “Is there anyone around with a more punchable face than Owen?” Well, just at the moment Alec Salmond comes No 1 for me and Richard Murphy is a perennial favourite. Both of these have the advantage that their faces are considerably fatter than Owen’s so one is less likely to miss. However, against that, being padded they are better cushioned against damage. George Galloway also recently demonstrated his known, but hitherto undemonstrated, punchability. BraveFart September 5, 2014 at 2:33 pm Ironman Tommy has always had, and will always retain, a core support here – or not here precisely but in the greater Glasgow area – but thankfully it continues to dwindle. If the allegations (still disputed) are true there is a certain, ahem, “venue” in Manchester where support was particularly enthusiastic. He’s not ageing well though and his orange skin makes the TV look like the colour saturation is on maximum. Interested September 5, 2014 at 3:44 pm @The Meissen Bison ‘Musos as a whole tend to be lefty or at least ‘alternative” It always makes me chortle when their true colours are revealed, or they ‘see the light’. One of my favourite examples is of Paul Weller, who wrote ‘Eton Rifles’ as a way of deomstrating his hatred of private education, and possibly Eton CCF, and then sent his own kids to private school once he had the dosh. Quote: When I ask what he spends his money on he rolls his eyes. ‘School fees…’ He had qualms about it at first, but all his children have been educated at private schools. Where he lives is not exactly the worst part of London, he says, but the local comprehensives were never an option. ‘I don’t want my kids coming home speaking like Ali G – I’m just not having it.’ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/3673286/Paul-Weller-changing-man.html For double irony, it is claimed that Bruce Foxton sent his son to Eton itself. For treble irony, he was supposedly called Iago. (I think this is an urban myth, sadly.) Ironman September 5, 2014 at 4:26 pm On the subject of punchable faces;if a firebrand social campaigner puts sponsored posts on his blog, lauding operators of privatised rail services for example, is it ethical not to declare then as such? Bloke in Costa Rica September 5, 2014 at 9:14 pm No doubt I’m showing my age, but it is completely impossible for me to take seriously the views of anyone who looks like Owen Jones. When I picture the word “callow”, this is what I see. I feel like shouting, “shut up, boy! There are adults talking!” Armald September 5, 2014 at 9:36 pm Yeah, Gillies, as people would throw up over yours. Runcie Balspune September 6, 2014 at 1:12 am Well, he doesn’t know what a millionaire is, either. Interested September 6, 2014 at 2:18 pm @Arnald ‘Yeah, Gillies, as people would throw up over yours.’ No-one called Gillies, David or otherwise, has commented. You thick tool. Edward M. Grant September 6, 2014 at 6:34 pm These are working class people who create huge revenues and receive their due reward, yet the Left utterly despises them The left can’t stand the ‘working class boy made good’, because, if the working class can succeed on their own, what do they need the left for? Armald September 6, 2014 at 7:15 pm Interested, you twat, it’s a very distinctive avatar by bloke in costa rica’s posts. Also the language is clear. You are an arrogant tit. You tiny member. Armald September 6, 2014 at 7:18 pm one second to prove https://www.timworstall.com/2011/09/21/full-tilt/ 2011! wanker Armald September 6, 2014 at 7:19 pm And I’m not Arnald. You fat fucking nobody. Surreptitious Evil September 6, 2014 at 9:22 pm Well, well, there is a fake new version of an old troll. Where’s the ignore function? Bloke in Costa Rica September 7, 2014 at 5:28 pm Yes, it is I, David G., having adopted the nom de blogue of BiCR and Angrynald has me bang to rights. I think Armald, or Arnald, or sock-puppet Richard Murphy or whathaveyou, might be a wee bit unhinged. It’s a hallmark of his ilk that when reasoning fails, invective follows. Quite why my observations about Owen Jones’s pre-pubescent looks should cause his sword to leap from its scabbard (ooh-err missus) is a question perhaps best not examined too closely. His rantings do add to the gaiety of nations, however. Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.