Timmy elsewhereSeptember 10, 2014 Tim WorstallTimmy Elsewhere13 CommentsAt the ASI. Decriminalisation of drugs is great: but we still need legalisation of supply. previousKeith Vaz is a ghastly little shit, isn’t he?nextEnglish and American are different languages 13 thoughts on “Timmy elsewhere” The Stigler September 10, 2014 at 11:20 am A trip to Amsterdam often resulted in people telling their mates where to go to get it. Places like The Grasshopper and The Bulldog were effectively branded suppliers of weed, someone that you could trust not to sell you a bag of oregano. And it did have more regulation than apples, and maybe a bit more than alcohol. You couldn’t walk into a restaurant, roll a joint, and start puffing away. You had to smoke in your home or certain designated places. G September 10, 2014 at 11:26 am Won’t that lead to more people taking drugs? Bloke in Wales September 10, 2014 at 12:49 pm So what if it does? If people choose to get their kicks from weed, that’s no one’s business but theirs. And if the weed supply is legal then they aren’t financing the crims to get their kicks. Mr Ecks September 10, 2014 at 12:59 pm Even if the users remain crims and get the price of their drugs via crime–the vastly lower market price will mean the amount of crime done will plummet. These arseholes aren’t trying to be Drug User of the Year. bloke in france September 10, 2014 at 1:29 pm Tim, we may not be winning the war on drugs but at least we haven’t totally lost it. Ask any of the usual potential legal suppliers – pharma, drinks, tobacco, herbs, amazon – and you’ll get blanked. So you introduce your High As A Kitemark and the business remains in the hands of organised crime. Great result, eh? The Stigler September 10, 2014 at 4:19 pm bif, “Ask any of the usual potential legal suppliers – pharma, drinks, tobacco, herbs, amazon – and you’ll get blanked. So you introduce your High As A Kitemark and the business remains in the hands of organised crime.” So, Budweiser and Miller are produced by gangsters? Sorry, but none of those companies is going to say anything until it’s legal. They have nothing to gain from it. And they might avoid it for the same reason that Disney won’t buy an adult film company, that it tars their reputation, and costs more than it gains. But someone out there will create a hash operation. If you legalised weed in the West, within a decade you’d have companies doing it that looked more like Starbucks. And Guardian readers whining that it was so corporate and you should find a real, local place to get it. embutler September 10, 2014 at 7:35 pm pot will be legal?? while cake sales and brownies cookies will get you jailed… TheJollyGreenMan September 10, 2014 at 8:07 pm Weed used to be legal. In the days before motorcars they used to sell marijuana as special horse feed. It was the secret weapon the Boers with their Boer Ponies used against the full blood British Chargers. Give a horse a handful of weed in the morning and it will be happy to trot all day to get away from Tommies. The demise of horses meant the demise of the availability of the special horse feed. The same applies to the good old US of a, where the pony express made extensive use of this magic horse feed. Give the pony express rider a chew or two as well and he and his horse could cover miles. Ban motorcars, bring back horses, and their special dietary requirements, and the problem is solved. And for those who question what I wrote? LTGDH which stands for learn to google dick head., bloke in france September 10, 2014 at 8:55 pm Stig Sure, but how long will it take? The big boys aren’t going to go without a fight for a trade that probably nets them more than extortion and people trafficking combined. “Nice little corner shop you’ve got here, shame if anything happened to it.” “You say you’ve sourced your coke and heroin through organic farmers not subject to the FARC or the Taliban, but…” How long did Seagram, AB, Mondavi etc take to get the goons of the shareholder register? Timmy should stick his idea into capsules and shove it where the sun don’t shine. Mr Ecks September 10, 2014 at 10:19 pm BIF: No you should. Organised crime has power because of the vast amounts of money illegal activities bring in. The idea that hoods could go around intimidating everybody once their cash dries up is rubbish. Criminals want easy victory not war.The only reason organised crime IS intimidating is that they know most people won’t fight back because they will get in trouble with the biggest and nastiest gang of all–the scum of the state. It is the antics of the state that have created, empowered and enriched organised crime all along. The difference between crims and “ordinary” people is not in capacity for brutal violence. The criminal’s stock in trade is his willingness to go to jail and live cheek-by-jowl with scum for years. Ordinary people want to go home to their families. The state is determined to maintain its monopoly on violence–over ordinary “law-abiding” people. The state –despite the rhetoric–has little interest in criminals. They can’t get money out of them and they can’t make them obey. In turn the crims are little threat to the state. No state has ever been overthrown by criminals–in the sense of those alleged humans who regard their fellow humans as prey. Indeed by that definition, the state is a gang of criminals at the top of the food chain. The state doesn’t want a belligerent and well-armed population that won’t tale any shite from criminal scum. Because such a population might just decide they aren’t going to take any more shite from political scum. It is in the state’s interest to supress ordinary people’s attempts to defend themselves and make such defence as difficult as possible. There are plenty of people who are capable of dealing with criminal scum and returning just as much violence as they might be threatened with. What those people don’t want is a round two with the state’s costumed thugs. The state’s thugs can not just run away as beaten crims will–if the costumes run, regardless of how small the matter, the game is up for the state. Even if they are bested one time and in one area–they must and will always escalate and return for a rematch or the state’s criminal empire will fall–and all their victims will tell them to fuck right off. Succeed one time in telling the council tax pukes that you are not paying–and publically make it stick–and that is the end of council thieving and councils. So Much for Subtlety September 10, 2014 at 11:07 pm TheJollyGreenMan – “Weed used to be legal. In the days before motorcars they used to sell marijuana as special horse feed. ” You don’t mean weed, you mean hemp. Botanically the same plant, but hemp is grown for fibre and seed. Marijuana is grown for THC. The former tends to lack the latter. Hemp is still legal to grow in the UK, if you have a licence, and it is still fed to horses. And birds. For obvious reasons, no one wants a high horse. bloke in france September 10, 2014 at 11:20 pm Mr X Great post! Even loonier than usual, so much appreciated. Mr Ecks September 11, 2014 at 1:21 am BIF: No more loony than your boilerplate bluearse conservative “If we legalise drugs the Syndicate will just take over everything else” shite. Even cop thugs are getting embarrassed to keep lifting that old stale coprolite out of its box and waving it under the media’s nose. Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. 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