Vainglorious claim of the dayOctober 27, 2014 Tim WorstallRagging on Ritchie21 CommentsThe Fair Tax Mark is what Russell Brand’s Revolution should look like What? previousBollocks, complete and total bollocksnextVainglory! 21 thoughts on “Vainglorious claim of the day” Bloke with a Boat October 27, 2014 at 9:28 am They probably mean this symbol http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100185609/you-thought-the-whole-eussr-thing-was-over-the-top-have-a-look-at-this-poster/ Matthew L October 27, 2014 at 9:28 am Well they are both pointless ego trips. davidseven October 27, 2014 at 9:33 am Someone mentioned to me that Russell Brand is the spitting image of Oddbod Jr from Carry on Screaming. I find it helps. Bloke with a Boat October 27, 2014 at 9:41 am Talking of vainglory: It is short book, with each fallacy generating two to four pages of discussion. Mr Worstall’s humorous style emanates, laughing the way through the dismal science. Also, these fallacies are not exclusively taken from a particular political view. Mr Worstall has written a concise and incisive book: it is pertinent since many of these fallacies drive contemporary policy. Ljh October 27, 2014 at 10:27 am Fair Tax Mark? Is that a tattoo or sump’ing? Flatcap Army October 27, 2014 at 10:53 am It’s not vainglory – it’s a pathetic attempt to hijack a bandwagon that’s getting more attention that the LTHD’s one. Poor Murphy increasingly resembles a one-time child star whose fame caught the imagination at the time but is rapidly fading, and who is increasingly desperate to stay centre stage Van_Patten October 27, 2014 at 11:18 am Flatcap Army Absolutely right – Following on from his spat with the Tax Justice Network, his travails with the Maugham blog, the desperate attempts to ensure that he has ‘a voice’ in any organization that materialises under the Miliband government and a variety of other fiascos, his siren voice is coming under scrutiny it cannot withstand. He sees coming irrelevance and like anyone so threatened casts around for ways to make himself seem more important. The recourse to a charlatan such as Brand suggests a desperation that I had not yet senn, however…. worzel October 27, 2014 at 11:33 am The paucity of Brand’s arguments, and (lack of) engagement with reality, were severely exposed on Newsnight. If Murph thinks he should attach himself to Brand in any way, we should be doing everything we can to encourage him. Ian Reid October 27, 2014 at 11:44 am @worzel Many more people would have seen Brand on the Jonathon Ross show where he came across as a likeable oddball sort of chap, without his arguments being in anyway critically examined. Anyhow most people agree with him, in that there is something wrong, heck even we do. It’s when you start talking about what to do about it that we part company. It’s sort of the Obama change thing over again. Interested October 27, 2014 at 12:56 pm @Worzel I missed that (Newsnight) – was it on recently? Interested October 27, 2014 at 1:01 pm Talking of Russell B Rand, I was in the car with the sprogs yesterday, listening to some choons of my youth, and Eddie and the Hot Rods ‘Do Anything You Wanna Do’ appeared. Once we had got over the amusing idea that Eddie didn’t need no optician telling him what he shoulda seen (kind of the point of opticians), one of the kinder pointed out that ‘You… can do anything you wanna do!’ left room for quite a lot of stuff, including going to Eddie and the Hot Rod gigs and smashing up their amplifiers. She is 13 and I was secretly quite delighted. worzel October 27, 2014 at 1:05 pm Ian Reid I’m all for change, but if we wanted economically naive comedians for politicians we’d, ahh. (didn’t think that one through) Interested. Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqsFp0J22Hc Ian Reid October 27, 2014 at 2:33 pm @Worzel I can see my comment was misconstured. By “we” I meant most of the people who comment on this site, parting company with the people who voted for the vacuous change meme offered by Obama and in an even more intelleucally lite fashion by Brand. As someone once said the trouble with political jokes is they get elected. Interested October 27, 2014 at 2:46 pm @Worzel Thanks. Blimey. His strategy seems pretty clear: ‘I haven’t got a fucking clue what I’m on about, so I’ll just shout over Evan Davies.’ That said, he doesn’t trust government. I’m with him there. I assume he is massively in favour of free schools, for instance. The Stigler October 27, 2014 at 3:30 pm Interested, Oh yes he does. He wants the assets of corporations and utilities seized (presumably including Bertelsman that published his book). To do that either requires a government using force, or a mob using force (and thus, effectively becoming government). Like a lot of people who have a problem with government, when you scratch the surface it’s not that they don’t like government interfering, it’s that government don’t interfere enough. worzel October 27, 2014 at 3:52 pm Interested I think all you need to know about Russ’s depth of understanding is his reaction to a graph which shows how much his no doubt beloved ‘workers’ average wages have fallen so much in recent years, which might actually help (one of) his arguments. ‘Don’t try and confuse me with your graphs Euan’ Prick Interested October 27, 2014 at 3:58 pm @Stig Yep, I was being mildly sarcastic (hence my slightly mischievous question re free schools). There is no way that he will be in favour of free schools precisely because he is a big believer in govt doing stuff – as long as it’s stuff that ‘Tories’ or ‘corporations’ don’t like. Hence sub-Arnald questions such as, ‘What has Vodafone ever done for us?’ The fact that they provide a phone service is irrelevant, they (allegedly) don’t pay ‘enough’ tax. The logical end game is of course to do away with all corporations and do everything through govt. Then 80 years later a new Gorbachev can start to unpick it all again. If I didn’t have kids I would want it to happen, to let these fuckers live it, not just talk it. It all ties in to my 13-year-old’s suggestion that Eddie Hot Rod would logically have been in favour of people trashing his amps if they ‘wanna’ – except that he wouldn’t, any more than Russell Brand will be turning all his wages over to poor folks. @Worzel He is a prick of the first order. BraveFart October 27, 2014 at 5:35 pm I’ve just noticed that the web address for Tax Research LLP is Dot Org. I thought that org was meant to be a non-business address, like gumbyment departments, charity etc. Does anyone else think it’s a little secretive for what is actually a business to imply it’s third sector? Ironic when this business makes money out of certifying that other businesses are not being secretive with respect to their taxes. Jack C October 27, 2014 at 8:51 pm BraveFart. Have you any idea how crass that comment makes you sound? BraveFart October 28, 2014 at 11:32 am Jack No sorry, no idea – you’ve lost me here? Christie Malry October 28, 2014 at 2:41 pm Someone mentioned to me that Russell Brand is the spitting image of Oddbod Jr from Carry on Screaming. cf a bearded Salma Hayek Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.