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They really are cretins, aren’t they?

The report says benefit-related problems are the single biggest reason for reference to food banks.

So it’s the fucks ups of the State that lead to the problem. The solution is thus to nationalise the system that solves the problems caused by the fuck ups of the State.

Yes, well done chaps.

Jeez our establishment is made up of sodding cretins, isn’t it?

18 thoughts on “They really are cretins, aren’t they?”

  1. I think the report says one thing and the archbishop pronounces on the cure . Poor old C of E, uneasy with doctrine, undecided on faith, uncertain about God, but unhesitatingly prescriptive on socialism.

  2. “Party blamed for rising use of food banks”

    Left-wing bias is not interested in the big/small government debate. “Party blamed”. Not government. Tories are bad at running the government. Labour are good. That is the truth which must be revealed.

  3. Some people had hopes of Welby. He’d had a career in the real world, might emphasise self reliance, local community and private charity.

    What fools we were.

  4. The first comment is “Well, so much for the big society”. 701 likes.

    Who’s going to tell them?

  5. @ bif
    He *does* emphasise local communityt and private charity. You (and the left-wing) media just aren’t listening.

  6. The Grauniad reports that ” He pointed out that 93 % of benefits were now paid on time an increase of 7 percentage points since 2010.”
    So late payments have *halved* under the Coalition. These late payments still account for 30% of demand for food banks. Under Labour that would mean 60% of current demand for food banks was due to late payments by DWP and underlying demand *cannot* have doubled.
    Either Grauniad writers are innumerate or they assume that their readers are.

  7. @ John77

    Actually, that would make it 46% of demand (60/130) rather than the current 30% (30/100), but you make a good point. That halving (if the figures are accurate) is a stark statistic. Decide for yourself whether it reflects well on the tories or just really really badly on the other lot.

  8. Has the rise in food banks created its own customer base?
    If nearest food bank is 30 miles away and 5 bus trips each way will you use it? If one opens up 1/2 mile away will you then use that?

    Wife and I are both disabled, both on low pay. Able to pay the bills and able to buy food. Was told last week by a welfare advisor that we qualify to use the foodbank! Really annoyed me, have no intention of ever using them.
    If I’m able to get the vouchers simply from our circumstances, how many others who are just as capable of affording food as me will go for the freebie?
    Make it easy to get free food and don’t be suprised when people go for… free food.

  9. @Martin Davies

    I hope this doesn’t sound patronising (I’ve never been disabled, but like most of us I’ve been short of cash, if I’m not now), but I’ve followed a lot of your posts and you sound like a top bloke. Keep your chin up.

  10. bloke in france

    “He’d had a career in the real world”

    He’d been a treasurer for an oil company. Sort of bloke that reconciles figures. Much more of a bureaucratic than an entrepreneurial role.

  11. @TTG
    Not quite – I agree that it would make DWP demand 46% of demand under Labour (if nothing else has changed).
    BUT if demand from late payments is now 30% (and the number unemployed has decreased) then in 2009/10 the number needing food banks just from DWP delays was more than 60% of *current* demand.
    So current demand is less than twice that under Labour.
    “Decide for yourself whether it reflects well on the tories or just really really badly on the other lot.” well let me see – that 7% is over half a million people, the population of Leeds; 14% was well over a million and is a bit more than the human population of Scotland north of the Tay excluding Aberdeen and Dundee i.e. all the Highlands and Islands, including Argyll, and the Great Glen, and the rest of Perthshire and Stirlingshire. The Coalition get some small credit for improving an appalling situation but it ain’t good enough.

  12. @ The Stigler
    He’d been FD for what was quite a good oil company by the time he left, despite having started off as the North sea exploration arm of British Gas before it was privatised. Even in the 70s it was better than Britoil but that was a pretty low hurdle.

  13. I speak here as a very disappointed Roman Catholic; Justin Welby is a veritable economic genius compared with Pope Francis.

  14. john77,

    “He’d been FD for what was quite a good oil company by the time he left”

    Which is still a bean counter/risk management role. Not much different to civil servants, really.

  15. @ The Stigler
    Actually there’s more team management than bean counting when you get to be FD of a FTSE-100 company with a few £billion of revenues and costs. The finance department needs several people just counting beans and several more to check them, run the IT involved, pay the bills and collect the cash owed. The FD runs a departmenmt and makes the big decisions on where to invest. A secondary role is dealing with investors and investment analysts and journalists and being able to answer any questions thrown at him.

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