Blimey

A distant cousin of the Queen has become the first head of the 1,000 year-old Knights of Malta chivalric order to be put on a fast-track path to sainthood.

Andrew Bertie, who died in 2008, was the Grandmaster of the Knights of Malta, a charitable order that was founded by a group of warrior monks during the Crusades. As such he held the title ‘Fra’, as in ‘frater’ or brother.

At a Mass in the Basilica of St John in Lateran in Rome, the former Scots Guards officer was formally placed on the road to sainthood.


Blimey
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If that goes through it will mean that I’ve actually met a saint.

Somewhat odd bloke though, it has to be said. He was at Worth and used to walk down to breakfast, past the dorms, singing the Lord’s Prayer in Arabic.

13 thoughts on “Blimey”

  1. So Much for Subtlety

    Somewhat odd bloke though, it has to be said. He was at Worth and used to walk down to breakfast, past the dorms, singing the Lord’s Prayer in Arabic.

    OK. That is odd enough to be a Saint, but it seems a little wrong to be the Head of the Knights of Malta. After all, isn’t the point of said organisation making those who speak Arabic sing the Lord’s Prayer in some European language (or at least an Arabic dialect pretending to be European like Maltese)?

    Don’t tell me they have got all politically correct and into this dialogue of Faiths crap.

  2. There is such a thing as Arab Christians, you know, who conduct prayers in Arabic. Not so many now, since Muslims have been steadily killing them since circa 635.

  3. “If that goes through it will mean that I’ve actually met a saint”

    Hold on, Beatification hasn’t happened yet, for which a confirmed miracle is required. Another is then required for Sainthood. The whole process can take decades, though political expediency and/or the will of God can move things along.

  4. So Much for Subtlety

    Jack C – “Hold on, Beatification hasn’t happened yet, for which a confirmed miracle is required. Another is then required for Sainthood. The whole process can take decades, though political expediency and/or the will of God can move things along.”

    But this is a recognition of Sainthood, not an appointment. The Pope and all his merry men don’t make Saints. They simply recognise God’s decision. So TW will have met a Saint, or someone who was to go on to become a Saint.

    And decades? Come on. If only. Perhaps once John Paul II sped the process up. It usually takes much longer than that. They burnt Joan of Arc in 1431. The process of making her a Saint began in 1456 – when a Papal Court convened, declared her innocent and a martyr. She was formally recognised as a Saint in 1920.

  5. Miracles are no longer needed.

    I would be surprised at a Knight of Malta being canonised y this Pope, but then inconsistency is perhaps the only consistent thing about him.

  6. “Somewhat odd bloke though..”

    He was also a judo black belt. In his pomp he bought a new Rolls every couple of years.

    He claimed to have taught Turkish to the sons of an ambassador to Turkey, despite knowing no Turkish when he started. “It was fine as they knew a lot of vocab, and I picked up the grammar easily as it’s very similar to Hungarian.”

  7. Miracles are still required in the RCC (though not if the subject was a martyr).

    One for beatification, one for sainthood.

    All in Heaven are Saints, canonisation simply confirms that an individual made the cut.
    Miracles provide the proof: in order for the subject to intercede on someone’s behalf (in answer to prayer), they need to be in Heaven to do the interceding. Ergo, etc.

  8. He claimed to have taught Turkish to the sons of an ambassador to Turkey, despite knowing no Turkish when he started. “It was fine as they knew a lot of vocab, and I picked up the grammar easily as it’s very similar to Hungarian.”

    This sounds like the typical bullshit aged public school masters come out with. We had one who used to tell us he was a Lancaster pilot in the war, and did a barrel roll over Colditz. He was shameless in telling this story, even though it was obvious he was nowhere near old enough to have done so. Looking back, most of them were full of shit.

  9. Tim N,
    I have some sympathy – but he did actually speak French,Spanish, Maltese and Arabic, with no claims to military heroism. I’ll accept the Ambassador’s sons probably don’t speak fluent Turkish.

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