On the subject of Sarah Palin

Here is a quick refresher on Sarah Palin’s greatest hits, for those who may have forgotten: she opposes abortion in every circumstance – even rape and incest – unless the mother’s life is in danger, in which case she concedes that an adult woman might qualify as a human being.

How inconvenient this must be. An anti-abortion politician carries to term a Down’s Syndrome child. What the hell doers she mean actually living by the principles she espouses?

43 thoughts on “On the subject of Sarah Palin”

  1. It’s easy in the Guardian’s vast retinue of imbeciles to forget this particular troll – I could only presume she is some ghastly parody, only we are somehow ‘required’ to treat the opinions of her, and those like her with respect. Probably not as appalling as Owen Jones but it is a close-run thing. In terms of your point, Tim – to quote the late Peter Simple ‘ for these people, to ‘think left wing’ is the only type of thought permissible, there is no other ‘correct’ way to think, or act.

  2. So, if you qualifying.as.a.human being gives you the right to end the life of another human being does it? The Guardian employs Ritchie-logic of the.most refined kind.

  3. I don’t want to be a sexist pig…. but isn’t Lindy the really hefty one who gets very angry when men talk to attractive women?

  4. Classic example of a straw man, there. Nobody on the anti-abortion side is arguing that women do not qualify as human beings. But then, the whole of feminism is made of straw, so hardly unusual.

  5. Van P You could always try the Cromwell line..(as CofE Bishops did recently)
    “I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible that you may be mistaken.”

  6. The flaw with the “wisdom of crowds” is that blandness is going to come out the other end, more often than not.

    Instead, how about the “wisdom of malevolent dumbasses”? We could make a start with Lindy, Palin, certainly Ritchie.

    Owen Jones could be their pet gerbil.

  7. So Much for Subtlety

    Just in passing, Ruth Bader Ginsberg again spoke out in favour of abortion this week – because it reduces the number of poor, i.e. Black, people.

    No outrage from the Left at all.

    No doubt if I said I supported abortion to keep the number of stupid people down, especially if most of them were Black, Ironman would have a few things to say. God knows what CiF would do if they heard about it. But Ginsberg gets a free pass.

    As Instapundit says, if they did not have double standards, they would have no standards at all.

  8. Hallowed Be

    That’s a great line, for sure – ‘You have tarried here too long, in the name of God, go’ could also be used.

    The problem is that for the likes of West, Cromwell would be a DWEM, a racist, religious, anti-semitic, and so on, ad nauseam. All these prejudices are acceptable of course, so long as they are directed at the correct person.

  9. Interested: “I don’t want to be a sexist pig…. but isn’t Lindy the really hefty one who gets very angry when men talk to attractive women?”

    Sorry, but you’re going to have to narrow it down a lot more than that for us.

  10. > she opposes abortion in every circumstance – even rape and incest

    I never get that qualification. These people oppose the death penalty in all cases except for innocent people with guilty fathers.

    I, on the other hand, would have no particularly strong objection to the death penalty for the actual rapist, and that makes me a barbarian.

  11. SMFS

    But you didn’t say it, so why would I think of taking issue with you?

    And you are right on the money with their double standards. This reared it’s head, in all places, in Freakonomics: a reducing crime rate being offered as an excellent argument in favour of abortion. At a meal with lefty friends I pointed out, quite aside from it being an easily contestable claim, there was a certain, er, ethnic dimension to it. Cue blank stares, professions of simply not understanding what I was getting at whilst simultaneously suggesting I was being offensive and ruining the evening (I do hope that last of these was genuinely so).

  12. winking at her own disastrous 2008 vice-presidential run

    Disastrous?

    It was Sarah Palin’s intervention that made the 2008 US election a contest, rather than a coronation procession for Obama.

    She electrified the Republican base and injected a serum of energy and charisma into Old Man McCain’s floundering campaign.

    And that’s why they’ve never forgiven her.

    What has Lindy West ever achieved, apart from winning competitive eating contests?

  13. Van P- v gd.. like that.

    Having now read West’s article I have to say she rather misses an important point. Palin may have come close-ish to the VP and thus POTUS but her failings were ruthlessly exposed, exploited and made fun of by the American media. She was chosen as an electoral asset, she was exposed and became an electoral liability. Future Candidates will take that on board.

  14. Hallowed Be – Palin may have come close-ish to the VP and thus POTUS but her failings were ruthlessly exposed, exploited and made fun of by the American media. She was chosen as an electoral asset, she was exposed and became an electoral liability.

    This is how the US media works:

    Left-wing Democrats are slathered with praise and any critical inquiry into their backgrounds is quashed.

    So if you had any awkward questions about Obama, then you’re a racist.

    Not keen on Hillary? Obvious misogynist and probably a rapist.

    For right-wing Republican candidates, the standard drill is to go through their garbage, dredge up dirt dating back to their primary school days, comb over everything they ever said for controversy, and look to ambush them with tricky questions designed to make them look foolish.

    Thus, the world was made aware of the vital information that Mitt Romney once put his dog on top of his car. But Obama’s history of eating dogs just wasn’t considered news.

    It was similarly considered very important to inform people that Romney was once unkind to a gay student in high school, because bigotry. Obama writing in his autobiography that he broke off an engagement to a white girl because he couldn’t bear to be related to any more white people? Why would any responsible journalist report that?

    It is crucially urgent that Sarah Palin should know who the finance minister of Belgium is. But Obama thinking there are 57 states in the US? Well, he was probably just tired. Why make an issue of it?

    As far as the US media is concerned, “electoral liability” = non-neutered conservative.

    Despite the unprecedented journalistic harrassment, Sarah Palin was not a liability. She remains popular among American conservatives. If she hadn’t been on the ticket McCain would still have lost, but probably by a bigger margin.

  15. Hallowed Be, let me fix that.

    Palin may have come close-ish to the VP and thus POTUS but her failings were ruthlessly exposed to ensure the election of an incompetent buffoon who never misses an opportunity to molest the wives and kids of his subordinates.

  16. Steve

    ‘What has Lindy West ever achieved, apart from winning competitive eating contests?’

    Amen to that – really hard to decide whether she or Owen Jones is worse. The insistence that she is somehow ‘the voice of the marginalized’, the personal ad hominems, The constant reference to her gender, her sexual orientation and her physical appearance as making it a ‘requirement’ to listen to her pontificating on seemingly anything under the sun of which she is entirely ignorant, and the automatic, almost reflex use of the term ‘troll’ to describe anyone who disagrees with her – what a ghastly individual.

  17. Van_Patten – really hard to decide whether she or Owen Jones is worse.

    It’s definitely whey-faced Oxbridge communist and thirty-year-old boy Owen Jones.

    Lindy West is just an unhappy woman who externalises her disappointment with life.

    Owen is the sort of man I despise: one who has obviously never been in a fight in his life.

    You can’t trust a man who hasn’t been in a scrap, whether on the rugby pitch or outside a pub or even in the playground as a boy.

    Not because Grrr! Macho testosterone! But because experiencing a damn good hiding at least once in your life is an essential formative experience that builds a man’s character.

    When you look at Owen talk, he sneers and pouts and emotionalises like a woman.

    That would be fine – possibly even endearing – if he was a woman, but men are supposed to be more grounded.

    Nothing grounds a man to reality more than being forced to put his words into action through the blood, snot and tears of pummelling another man in hand-to-hand fisticuffs.

    If Owen got into a ruck, his voice would drop an octave, his testicles would descend, he’d stop being a radical lefty and he might even be able to grow facial hair.

    The next Question Time should be a brutal Hunger Games style fight to the death.

  18. @ Steve
    “Nothing grounds a man to reality more than being forced to put his words into action through the blood, snot and tears of pummelling another man in hand-to-hand fisticuffs.”
    Surely you mean “boy” – if he had attended a primary school in a mining area when we still had miners (instead of a school oozing with money – “50 sports teams”) he might have learned the hard way that lying and sneering are not a good idea.

  19. Meanwhile, what’s all the Palin-adoration about? Obama is a dodgy geezer to be sure; he comes from Chicago, so that shouldn’t be a surprise. However, mine enemy’s enemy should NOT be my friend, and Palin is a retarded dimwit with a neat method of extracting money from the gullible.

    I’m not sure why so many small government types warm to those who seek rule-by-God.

    Bollocks to all of them.

  20. bloke (not) in spain

    “Meanwhile, what’s all the Palin-adoration about?”
    It’s actually quite hard to discern Palin at all through the raging storms of progressive vitriol.
    Certainly much harder than it is to see Russia from Alaska (Which is quite visible on a clear day. If we’re talking islands, audible)
    One just presumes there must be something worthwhile there to drive them to such extremes of frothing hate.

  21. john77 – Aye, I’d like to see Owen Jones star in a remake of Kes.

    Jack C – you’re getting a bit homo-erotic

    NTTAWWT.

    Anyway, if it’s homoerotic to think about muscular, angry men with rippling, gleaming chests, grappling each other in a ballet of intimate violence… then homoerotic me up.

    Apropos of nothing, the guy who wrote Fight Club is gay.

    what’s all the Palin-adoration about?

    Two things:

    * she’s a lot smarter than she’s made out to be. Sure, she’s no Margaret Thatcher, but the way she has been portrayed as a sinister moron is absurd.

    * politics boils down to “whose side are you on?” Obama is for the coastal elites, SJW’s, unions, illegal immigrants, and welfare clients. Palin is on the side of normal American families, because she’s one of them.

  22. Come on, it’s by no means all progressive vitriol in the US, the other side have many outlets as well, so Palin is by no means short of gushing praise.

    Besides, I have no sympathy for her; she makes very good money out of it, and the vitriol probably helps.

    B(n)iS:

    “People should know that water-boarding is how we baptise terrorists in the US”. I think counter-productive, retarded moron is polite in the circs.

  23. I’ve been wondering about Owen’s sex life, for which I blame Steve.

    As good sex is generally politically incorrect to a greater or lesser degree, I don’t suppose he’s had any.

    Joyless is probably the mot juste.

  24. bloke (not) in spain

    ““People should know that water-boarding is how we baptise terrorists in the US”. I think counter-productive, retarded moron is polite in the circs.”

    Oh, I see Jack. Inappropriate amounts of cringe & grovel from Sarah P. Maybe she needs lessons. Hils might give her pointers.

  25. So Much for Subtlety

    Hallowed Be – “Palin may have come close-ish to the VP and thus POTUS but her failings were ruthlessly exposed, exploited and made fun of by the American media. She was chosen as an electoral asset, she was exposed and became an electoral liability. Future Candidates will take that on board.”

    No. Palin was popular with a lot of people but she did not have the correct markers of Class in modern America. She did not go to the right sort of universities. She was not born to the right sort of parents. She did not take up the right sort of jobs with progressive NGOs and think tanks.

    She was proudly working class.

    The Left, and especially the mainstream media, hated that. They could not stand the idea an ordinary person might get close to the White House. That ought to be reserved for the Right Sort of Person – a member of the modern East Coast Aristocracy. So they tried to destroy her. They utterly hammered her at every opportunity. They lied and they smeared.

    Unfortunately future candidates don’t seem to have taken it onboard.

  26. The left hate to see the working class get uppity. They’re supposed to doff their caps and do what they’re told, not get any ideas about becoming President without an Ivy League indoctrination.

    If Palin had been the presidential candidate instead of whatever loser the Republicans nominated, Obama might be just another failed Democrat nominee rather than another failed Democrat President. I’m not sure whether Palin would have been any better, but she’d certainly have been more entertaining.

  27. So Much for Subtlety

    Edward M. Grant – “The left hate to see the working class get uppity. They’re supposed to doff their caps and do what they’re told, not get any ideas about becoming President without an Ivy League indoctrination.”

    The media is already suggesting Scott Walker is not qualified to be President because he does not have a college degree. To which I say, f**k off, c*nts.

    “If Palin had been the presidential candidate instead of whatever loser the Republicans nominated, Obama might be just another failed Democrat nominee rather than another failed Democrat President. I’m not sure whether Palin would have been any better, but she’d certainly have been more entertaining.”

    She might well be. And I don’t believe she would have done a worse job than Obama. But the Establishment Republicans are basically just Democrats in thin disguise and they do not want someone on the Right. They will elect another Democrat again. And lose to the Democrat yet again. Insanity.

  28. Steve, SMFS

    Really? Sarah Palin was hard done by? The impression in my mind, based on British and USian media, that she was a lightweight that would have been  out of her depth as President. That’s completely wrong is it?

    Her failing was she wasn’t up to the very top mark as a politican. Even if you insist she wasn’t as much as a dunce as we were lead to believe. A big chunk of the test is creating a good impression through the media. Yes maybe with a benign compliant media treatment all this impression would not have been made. Maybe. But we dont want that do we. Other’s get an easier ride, well yes maybe.  Sarah’s baptism of fire was a little unique. 

  29. So Much for Subtlety

    Hallowed Be – “The impression in my mind, based on British and USian media, that she was a lightweight that would have been out of her depth as President. That’s completely wrong is it?”

    I have no idea. We were told that Reagan was a light weight who was out of his depth. And yet he wasn’t. The Constitution does not say the President has to be a genius but the media clearly decided it should have ruled out ordinary people. So they smeared and they lied.

    “Her failing was she wasn’t up to the very top mark as a politican.”

    How do you know? Compare the free ride that Obama got. He hasn’t been up to the job – preferring to do nothing but play golf. She had more experience than him. But the media went feral on her and allowed Obama a free pass. To any sensible person that is a problem. It is for the voters to decide if she was up to the job. Not CNN. They do not have, nor should they seek to have, a veto on the process.

    As the BBC and the rest of the metropolitan elite does in the UK as well.

  30. SMFS. The voters decide I agree. We have not seen anything from Sarah Palin , since the pressure’s been off, suggesting she was egregiously misjudged. Chosen by McCain to counter the Obama effect she had the advantage of . not being gnarled up in DC Beltway politics as usual. That didn’t last very long.
    You say the treatment was elitist but the draw dropping thing to the Curcic question on what she read was “Y’know all of them.” The immediate impression (and I concede its only an impression) is” ay-up here’s someone winging it.” From that point on blood is in the water and tge plan backfired.
    Whether Obama shall be judged a successful President is different. As president he may be limp but he’s not a biscuit.

  31. Palin took on the corrupt bipartisan political establishment in Alaska and destroyed it. Quite how anyone thinks a moron could have accomplished that is beyond me.

    And, you know, IQ quibbling aside, how about some principles? She took office and immediately put the governor’s private jet on Ebay. She put the Alaskan Congress’s cheque book online, so the voters could see exactly what their money was spent on — much to the Congress’s annoyance. There are far too few such politicians, especially in the US.

  32. I didn’t know that about Sarah Palin. In a career political savvy is far more important than high test scores. And yes her Alaskan career up until her national car crash showed she had that. And yes principles, especially if you agree with them, are attractive in a politician. As TW pointed out she has walked the walk of one she espouses. Plus points for her. And as we’re always told you need to be photogenic in US major elections: plus point for her. In fact she had a lot going for her. Probably if she had wanted to she could have continued as Governor or become a DC Senator and we would have seen her true mettle operating to the benefit of the nation.

  33. > Probably if she had wanted to she could have continued as Governor …

    Well, no, because the Left discovered a technicality in Alaskan law that enabled them to force her into bankruptcy if she kept the job, and demonstrated they had every intention of doing so. She also had to leave because so much time was being spent dealing with the frivolous complaints that were intended to bankrupt her that there was no time left to do her job, leaving the state with effectively no governor. (Compare to the stink kicked up by the Left that Obama might be asked to “waste time” producing his birth certificate, i.e. documentary evidence of his qualification for the job.)

    > … or become a DC Senator and we would have seen her true mettle operating to the benefit of the nation.

    A senator operating to the benefit of the nation? Good one.

    Anyway, she’s done a fantastic job since she resigned, working to reform the Republican Party and (ironically) stop them fielding candidates like McCain, who get into office and do whatever the Democrats tell them to.

  34. “Anyway, she’s done a fantastic job since she resigned, working to reform the Republican Party…” Perhaps she has found her true calling. She can also write books, present TV shows, distribute leaflets, make speeches. That’s all fine. Hasn’t really put her back in contention. I think it’s pretty safe to say she won’t be part of the next Republican administration. Though I personally would like to see Jeb Bush make her ambassador to Canada, just to shake that far-too-cosy-for-my-liking relationship up.

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