Well done Zoe!

So, the obesity epidemic.

It’s inequality, because poor kids get fat, it’s corporate greed, because sugar is added to our food to make extra profits, or we’re all being poisoned by pollution, or the proles are just lazy.

In ZoeWorld those are the only possible alternatives.

The reality, that calories consumption (even sugar consumption) is falling and has been for decades, just not as fast as calorie exertion, doesn’t manage to enter the discussion.

21 thoughts on “Well done Zoe!”

  1. So Much for Subtlety

    If sugar has been added to our food, and it has, it is because we listened to Ancel Adams and got rid of the fat. That is, we listened to morons like Zoe.

    We should do the exact opposite of what buffoons in authority tell us. More meat, more fat and more of whatever annoys Zoe. A recipe for a longer, happy life for all of us.

  2. So Much for Subtlety

    David Jones – “Ancel Keyes?”

    No it was those f*cking nature photos wot did it. Everyone looked at those, said “No Thank, not for me” went back inside and had a beer in front of the TV.

    The rest is history.

  3. >the proles are just lazy.
    sounds like a dismissive Guardianista way of saying
    >just not as fast as calorie exertion
    to me.

  4. “pollution has also increased in lockstep with obesity”

    Nope. The UK’s air and water are far cleaner today than they were 60 years ago, but we’re definitely fatter. But then having the wrong facts never stopped anyone at the Guardian.

  5. Zoe should have told us how the soviets dealt with this problem. The colossal abundance produced by scientific socialism must have made obesity a problem there right from the start.

    Also isn’t it time socialism shared the secret of Lenin’s baldness cure with the rest of humanity. Haven’t men everywhere suffered long enough?

  6. SE
    He goes quiet soon enough when you nail him with the odd fact.

    I am still waiting for him to tell me the destinations of vehicle exports from Brazil and India (which in fact I know).

    He seems to think they make an inferior product which doesn’t sell in advanced economies.

  7. This is the start of a comment posted by KH to an article at the ASI on handgun liberalisation

    The human brain declined in size by about 10% when man turned from hunter-gathering on the prairies and became farmers and hamlet dwellers. It is likely (though no one can be sure) that there was no diminution of intellectual performance (indeed, craft skills would have been rising). Rather, since the more violent expression of some of our genes was not appropriate in the new, much more socialised environment, they weren’t used so often. They didn’t develop their usual vast neuronal networks and thus, the necessary thick insulating myelin sheaths (white matter) occupied far less space than previously. The cranium could afford to shrink somewhat without affecting our processing and thinking abilities.

  8. “pollution has also increased in lockstep with obesity”

    “Obesity has increased lockstep with the decline in Leeds United FC”

  9. @Andrew M:”Nope. The UK’s air and water are far cleaner today than they were 60 years ago, but we’re definitely fatter. But then having the wrong facts never stopped anyone at the Guardian.”

    You are forgetting that pollution as far as the Guardian is concerned includes CO2 which as we all know is the worst pollutant ever.

  10. The problem for the Fascisti is they cannot tax or legislate or blame a corporation or ‘inequality’ for not exercising, whereas products or greedy shareholders provide tangible, profitable targets.

    We could of course be obliged to wear ankle tags with kinetic smart meters so we are fined if we do not move enough, or given an electric shock.

  11. Zoe’s exculpation (fat cells are laid down in chikldhood) amounts to saying that greedy lazy kids get fat so it’s not their fault that they turn into fat adults.
    Er?
    Actually not even true, but hey, who cares if it gives you an excuse to blame someone else?
    My “big” sister was a relatively plump child but as a young/ middle-aged adult she had a 24″ waist (no longer, since she gave up smoking but I guess it’s still less than mine).

  12. Headline of the Year.

    Still, can someone explain how these good/bad bacteria created energy out of nothing and stored it as fat?

    Putting on 3st or so in 16 months isn’t really that difficult. About 300 excess calories per day, let’s call it a bar of chocolate plus a bit more.

  13. Bacteria which prevent you storing fat (I.e. stealing the energy you put in your mouth) would be a serious evolutionary drawback. Humans have had a super-abundance of food only in the past 40 years or so, and not even worldwide. A tiny fraction of human evolutionary time.

    I’m fairly sceptical.

  14. So Much for Subtlety

    Rob – “Bacteria which prevent you storing fat (I.e. stealing the energy you put in your mouth) would be a serious evolutionary drawback.”

    For you. Does the bacteria care? After all, bacteria that cause massive loss of blood through every body orifice would be a serious evolutionary drawback too and yet Ebola is still around.

    The reason to doubt the fecal transplant story is why would it be in the bacteria’s interest (so to speak) to make people get fat?

  15. “Still, can someone explain how these good/bad bacteria created energy out of nothing and stored it as fat?”

    Nobody knows for sure how it works. It’s new research.

    But some (very?) obvious possibilities include:

    1. Gut bacteria live on what you eat – if they consume more/less, or different components, it changes how much is left for you. (People with tapeworms tend to lose weight for the same reason.)

    2. Bacteria excrete various chemicals, some of which get absorbed into the bloodstream. Who can guess what effects they might all have?

    3. There may be chemicals in foods that affect the appetite. Bacteria that destroy or alter such molecules would thereby have an indirect effect on weight.

    4. There may be infectious diseases (viruses, bacteria, protozoa, fungi, or parasitical) that can damage organs of the body responsible for maintaining energy balance. These could be carried in the gut too, and spread to/from there.

    There’s one virus known that works by mechanism 4, called Ad36. It was first isolated in 1978 from the feces of a girl suffering from enteritis and diabetes. It’s understood to damage fat cells. Animal experiments have found it to cause obesity in chickens. And antiviruses to it are found in about 30% of obese humans and only 11% of non-obese humans, which would be statistically unlikely if there were no connection at all, although of course.correlation doesn’t imply causation. I suppose obesity could make you more susceptible. There’s no particular reason to think Ad36 is the only disease with this effect.

    Energy balance homeostasis in humans involves a very complicated feedback control mechanism, with several hundred biochemical signalling molecules implicated, but the principle is pretty much the same as the mechanisms that keep your blood oxygen levels right by regulating your breathing.

    The change in blood oxygen level is equal to the amount you breath in minus the amount you consume, just as with energy. So if your blood oxygen level is too high, you could say it’s because you’re breathing in too much! In a sense that’s actually true, but the *reason* you’re breathing ‘too much’ is not lack of willpower, or a reduction in the amount of exercise you do. If you genuinely have too much oxygen in your blood, there’s a biochemical reason. It’s the same with serious obesity.

    That said, for the vast majority of people there’s no medical issue with their body weight. Different people naturally weigh different amounts, the body tolerates a wide range of weights without any issue, and you could say some people are *supposed* to be heavier than others, in the same way some people are taller than others. The whole thing started because weight gain is a natural part of aging (it’s universality indicating that it is by design) and so of course people trying to look young and attractive can create the illusion by losing weight. Like other cosmetics, people make lots of money selling that, a huge industry has built up around it, and of course now there’s even more money in persuading even more people that they really need it. You can understand why telling people they’ll die if they don’t would make good marketing.

    Frankly, I regard most of it as ethically responsible and medically sensible as telling people that oxygen free radicals cause cancer, and they therefore need to hold their breath to reduce their oxygen levels. It might get you an endless supply of customers who ‘lack willpower’ to buy your nose pegs, but really…

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