The answer here is very simple

One very key element of the liberal left has long been under threat: its liberalism – that is, its willingness to debate with anything outside a narrow range of opinions within its own walls.

Well, yes. Meaning that the “liberal-left” are not in fact liberals. As they haven’t been for some time.

22 thoughts on “The answer here is very simple”

  1. Little is more entertaining than lefty in-fighting, especially when they are all trying to out-lefty each other and becoming more and more absurd, ‘checking their privilege’ to try to be the most ‘progressive’ kid on the block.

  2. My heart bleeds for him…..then you read this:

    ‘And the left – in its compassion, freedom and concern for social justice – is the only hope for the future of this country.’

    And realize he’s just used a phrase beloved of Richard Murphy which was rightly exposed nearly five decades ago as a semantic fraud. If the left is the only hope for the country’s future, it doesn’t have a future – I only hope my children aren’t left to the tender mercies of ISIS by the Left’s myriad follies…

  3. Dongguan John

    Lest we forget the immortal Murphy classic:

    ‘I consider myself a libertarian’

    which caused me to fall off my chair…..

  4. Dongguan John’s point about lefties trying to “out-lefty” each other is arguably a characteristic of all moralities. I remember hearing a Muslim deploring the fact that Muslim countries adopt a “more Muslim than thou” attitude to other Muslim countries. And then there’s the Christian high church versus low church carry on: “we’ve got more candles on our alters than you; na, na, na-na, na”.

  5. Other than not being a bigot and not caring about some peoples lifestyle choices, I’ve wondered what exactly is liberal about these sour peoples

  6. “Other than not being a bigot..”

    …except for when their principled anti-Zionism slips it’s mask and their bigoted anti-Semitism shows its face.

  7. They succeeded, against all evidence, in casting naziism and fascism as being far right, so why not craft their liberalism about believers limiting the freedoms of nonbelievers, because they knowbest?

  8. “‘And the left – in its compassion, freedom and concern for social justice – is the only hope for the future of this country.’”

    The left are scum who have butchered millions. The conceit and arrogance of these slime is breath-taking.

  9. “not caring about some peoples lifestyle”

    Oh, they care very much about all people’s lifestyles. It may be that some people’s lifestyles are in this week while others are out, (see the endless LBGTQWERTY wars or cannabis smokers v tobacco smokers), but the left care very, very much about everybody’s lifestyle.

  10. Mr Ecks

    The latest Gramscian attempt to shift the Overton Window is the contention that regimes like the USSR or PRC are in fact ‘extreme right wing’ – a close friend of Murphy often describes any opponent of his vision as ‘the Hard Right’. As you say – unbelievable.

  11. They have the gift of truly believing that whatever they think is real is the true reality. Normal people have some or many mental barriers and processes which exist to say “really?” In a sarcastic tone when you come up with something really risible.

    When your mind has none of these checks and balances you can passionately believe multiple contradictory things simultaneously. An obvious example is immigration: many of the Left will believe both of these things:

    1. Immigration is necessary to do the jobs Britons won’t do.
    2. People in Britain are unemployed because there are no jobs.

  12. Philip Scott Thomas

    …its willingness to debate with anything outside a narrow range of opinions within its own walls.

    Read Brendan O’Neill’s interview with Nigel Farage and then tell me again how open the left is to a wide range of opinions. It is to laugh.

  13. It’s partly an age thing.

    People over 50 can remember the Soviet bloc, and union behaviour closer to home.

    No one confused Con v Lab with Nasty v Nice then (and the Hated Thatch, after all, found her loudest support amongst the oiks, often to the disgust of certain parts of the middle-class).

    New Labour did a brilliant job of exploiting sleaze and presenting Labour as the kinder, nicer alternative. Unethical but brilliant.

  14. “Lest we forget the immortal Murphy classic:

    ‘I consider myself a libertarian’”

    And I consider myself thin and good looking.

  15. bloke (not) in spain

    “Other than not being a bigot..”

    Bigotry – the self righteousness felt when not sharing another’s dislike.

  16. Alan_t nails it perfectly.

    Ironman – very droll! The head in question being constituted of some very dense material…

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