To open a possible topic of discussion, has anyone else been following the Sad Puppies story? There being a few SF aficionados amongst the commentariat an’ that. It’s been enjoyable watching the Social Justice Warriors in disarray, for once & much of the posting here more concerns their relentless advance.
Hallowed Be
Well new one on me.
Thoughts: a) genius meme.b) writers squabbles are more catty than puppy. C) US culture wars are carried out on all fronts.
Interested
@BNIS
I’m not interested in sci fi but I have followed it a bit. Most amusing. The fact is, the wilder edges of this lunacy (eg the NUS safe space/jazz hands insanity) are so mad that ordinary folks will turn against them. Only confused totalitarians, bullying monomaniacs and narcissistic liars will still be onside.
The left *will* eat itself.
The only question is how much estuarial effluent we will have to swallow before the tide turns.
Jazz hands gate is a real eye-opener. Apparently the oppression goes on within the LGBTQA-Z as well. Wouldn’t you have guessed it, but gay white men have “co-opted black women’s bodies, languages, and mannerisms”.
Matthew L – “The vast majority of “SJW” type people were rolling their eyes at the jazz hands nonsense too.”
No they weren’t. Or it would stop.
“Regarding the Hugo awards thing:”
Someone writes some idiotic comments about a dispute he does not understand and yet manages to miss the point entirely? Amazing. People in glass houses should not be calling other people stupid. But of course he has to stick to the standard SWJ-meme that this is all about dying White men.
Matthew L – “And if you can’t be bothered reading that one, here’s one by George RR Martin:”
@SMfS
I think you’re getting your “responses” out of sync there. The response you link to is to GRRM’s previous post, not the one Matthew’s linked to. Presumably, like the no 9 bus, there’ll be another along shortly.
So Much for Subtlety
bloke (not) in spain – “Presumably, like the no 9 bus, there’ll be another along shortly.”
Presumably. G. R. R. Martin was a conscientious objector during the Vietnam War – that is, a c*nt of the first order, well, second order these days – so no doubt he will try to squash this rebellion and make the world safe for the Social Justice Warriors.
Matthew L
Can you find me an example of anyone outside the lunatic fringe of the NUS supporting that jazz hands crap?
Matthew L
To be clear – anything to do with student politics counts as the lunatic fringe.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3035424/Ukip-tries-bury-second-loser-poll-showing-former-Tory-MP-Mark-Reckless-lose-seat.html
To open a possible topic of discussion, has anyone else been following the Sad Puppies story? There being a few SF aficionados amongst the commentariat an’ that. It’s been enjoyable watching the Social Justice Warriors in disarray, for once & much of the posting here more concerns their relentless advance.
Well new one on me.
Thoughts: a) genius meme.b) writers squabbles are more catty than puppy. C) US culture wars are carried out on all fronts.
@BNIS
I’m not interested in sci fi but I have followed it a bit. Most amusing. The fact is, the wilder edges of this lunacy (eg the NUS safe space/jazz hands insanity) are so mad that ordinary folks will turn against them. Only confused totalitarians, bullying monomaniacs and narcissistic liars will still be onside.
The left *will* eat itself.
The only question is how much estuarial effluent we will have to swallow before the tide turns.
b(n)is –
Did you happen to see this discussion over at Samizdata?
Jazz hands gate is a real eye-opener. Apparently the oppression goes on within the LGBTQA-Z as well. Wouldn’t you have guessed it, but gay white men have “co-opted black women’s bodies, languages, and mannerisms”.
http://oxfordstudent.com/2015/03/25/jazz-hands-clapping-twitter-trolls-the-unsuccessful-derailing-of-nus-womens-conference/
I have to jazzhand that post. Even Russell Brand couldn’t have stretched to this level of self-parody.
I spent an entire weekend giggling to myself about jazz hands.
Rule number one of mute club. Is probably uneccessary.
Young Marcus of course..;
The vast majority of “SJW” type people were rolling their eyes at the jazz hands nonsense too.
Regarding the Hugo awards thing: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/04/09/the-sad-puppies-are-goddamned-idiots/
And if you can’t be bothered reading that one, here’s one by George RR Martin: http://grrm.livejournal.com/418285.html
Matthew L – “The vast majority of “SJW” type people were rolling their eyes at the jazz hands nonsense too.”
No they weren’t. Or it would stop.
“Regarding the Hugo awards thing:”
Someone writes some idiotic comments about a dispute he does not understand and yet manages to miss the point entirely? Amazing. People in glass houses should not be calling other people stupid. But of course he has to stick to the standard SWJ-meme that this is all about dying White men.
Matthew L – “And if you can’t be bothered reading that one, here’s one by George RR Martin:”
To which Larry Correia responds:
http://monsterhunternation.com/2015/04/09/a-response-to-george-r-r-martin-from-the-author-who-started-sad-puppies/
“The vast majority of “SJW” type people were rolling their eyes at the jazz hands nonsense too.”
Yes, but only because it was an error.
A further Samizdata thread on the sad puppies: and a response to GRRM (who has more important things to do with his time).
How about the ignorance project as topic?
Watch the video, I suspect most on here won’t be surprised the our media are ignorant, but I’ll put money on that you will be shocked at how ignorant.
http://www.gapminder.org/ignorance/
@SMfS
I think you’re getting your “responses” out of sync there. The response you link to is to GRRM’s previous post, not the one Matthew’s linked to. Presumably, like the no 9 bus, there’ll be another along shortly.
bloke (not) in spain – “Presumably, like the no 9 bus, there’ll be another along shortly.”
Presumably. G. R. R. Martin was a conscientious objector during the Vietnam War – that is, a c*nt of the first order, well, second order these days – so no doubt he will try to squash this rebellion and make the world safe for the Social Justice Warriors.
Can you find me an example of anyone outside the lunatic fringe of the NUS supporting that jazz hands crap?
To be clear – anything to do with student politics counts as the lunatic fringe.
@Matthew L
I did say ‘at the wilder edges of this lunacy’.