UVA Rape and Rolling Stone

Well, this isn’t a surprise:

Rolling Stone on Sunday apologized and removed an article it published about an alleged gang rape at a University of Virginia fraternity house, after an independent review outlined a “story of journalistic failure” at the magazine.

The author of the article, Sabrina Rubin Erdely, also apologized, offering her “deepest apologies: to Rolling Stone’s readers, to my Rolling Stone editors and colleagues, to the UVA community, and to any victims of sexual assault who may feel fearful as a result of my article”.

The 13,000-word report, which was released by Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, evaluated the editorial process that led to the story’s publication, concluding that the magazine had failed to follow “basic, even routine journalistic practice”.

It’s not, actually, that Rolling Stone didn’t follow basic, even routine, journalistic practice. That’s to fall into the pit of process. It’s that the original accusation was so mindgarglingly stupid that no one with an ounce of common sense would have believed it in the first place.

Drop all of the he saids, she saids and concentrate upon that central allegation. That gang rape was a method of pledging (or performing a forfeit in order to join) to a campus fraternity. No, that really was what Jackie was alledging. This gang rape then took place and absolutely no one gave a shit.

It’s just about possible to believe that there are some dark corners of American society where gang rape is indeed an entrance to membership of a group. There are certainly dark corners of other parts of the world where this vile crime is common enough.

And now think of fraternities. That’s the American upper middle class in the making. That’s the lawyers, doctors, accountants and engineers of the next generation in their formative years. Yes, this is a vastly classist argument that I’m making. And just how deranged to you have to be to think that the nascent upper middle classes celebrate or negotiate their way into being such by gang rape of the female members of their own generation, those women who are going to go on and join them in that upper middle class? Who may or may not be their college girlfriends, but who most definitely belong to the social group that is going to make up their wives, currently includes their sisters and into which they’ll put their own daughters when the time comes.

No, really, how bound up in madness do you have to be to think that this is even possible, let alone likely?

The entire story was the result of a collective delusion among those who saw it prior to publication.

Does rape happen in colleges? Yup, it sure does, it’s a vile crime and rapists should be jailed. But that wasn’t the centre of the allegation. Which was that this was normal, that this was a rite of passage, that this had been going on for years if not generations. And that’s just mad.

It all came from the same place as Salem, the Satanic abuse cases. Societal hysteria, nowt else.

21 thoughts on “UVA Rape and Rolling Stone”

  1. The reporter’s apology might have been extended to cover the frat, its members, and wrongly accused men.

    But that would be to forget that this was another temporary check in the overall advance.

  2. Which comes back to the point I’ve been making for a long time which is that Feminism needs to be recognised not as a form of social analysis, but as a conspiracy theory, because that is what it is.

    People who believe in conspiracy theories will make absurd claims because they believe that these claims are reasonable. If you believe in witches, saying you saw your elderly neighbour flying on a broomstick seems entirely reasonable. Hence the relative ease with which non-believers can spot the believers.

    Also, inititation rituals generally involve the humiliation of the initiate, as a means of displaying their subordination and loyalty to the group.

  3. I think it’s right that the obama administration recently said that 20% of women at college were sexually assaulted.

    To believe that, you have to believe that the natural sexual assault rate is being exceeded many times at places women are clamouring to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars getting to.

    That also doesn’t pass the smell test (though I’m sure there are academic papers which ‘prove’ it is true).

    It’s all just another shot in the long war aimed at turning men and women against each other. Achieve that and the state really is boss.

  4. It’s not a conspiracy theory – conspiracy theorists believe the shite they say. It’s about dividing and conquering.

  5. With all due respect to your Puritan theory Ian–which I think to be a large element of the truth–how far would the current hatred and hysteria against heterosexual males (mostly white) have got without the bullshiters being clients of socialism? And thus able to draw on the long-established propaganda tactics and resources of those scum.

  6. Leaving aside that neither you nor me can ever know what anyone really believes,so all we can do is speculate, yes, I’m sure some do – I’m on about the controllers and enablers.

    Harriet Harman for all her faults isn’t stupid. She can understand facts.

    She pretends (IMO) to believe this shite so as to further her wider agenda.

    Sure teenage trots away from home for the first time, not really thinking about it, may ‘believe’ this stuff.

  7. I mean, it is literally impossible to believe the rape rate at (say) UCLA is ten times the rape rate in Watts – so one naturally assumes they don’t really believe it.

  8. Ecks-

    Nowhere near as far as it has. But the Puritan Hypothesis doesn’t deny the enormous contribution of the class-theory Left in terms of both theory and practise. What it attempts to do is explain why everyone in the Anglosphere fell for it, when they didn’t fall for Classical Marxism.

  9. bloke (not) in spain

    I’m not so sure about your premise, there, Tim. The social class “that’s the lawyers, doctors, accountants and engineers of the next generation” have quite a lot of form for dominance games within their own structure. See public (private) schools, military academies etc.They’re hierarchical & hierarchies work by de-personalising those lower on the hierarchical ladder. Despite those at the top of the ladder having passed through being on the bottom of the ladder. Add fraternities being what they are – brotherhoods – rather than brother & sisterhoods & you’ve all the makings & you have all the makings of what was alleged.
    I’m not saying it actually happened. But if it had, I wouldn’t be the least surprised. It’s endlessly depressing how people behave when part of groups as opposed to individually..

  10. So Much for Subtlety

    Interested – “I mean, it is literally impossible to believe the rape rate at (say) UCLA is ten times the rape rate in Watts – so one naturally assumes they don’t really believe it.”

    That’s racist! How can you claim the rape rate in a Black neighbourhood is high? It is probably a problem with distrust of the police and hence a lack of reporting anyway.

    There have been recent rapes at Frats in America. At historically Black colleges. All unreported by the media.

  11. So Much for Subtlety

    Notice no one was fired. It seems that this was not a serious moral and ethical lapse. It was one of the little forgivable ones.

    Not like, for instance, John Derbyshire’s “talk” about race. Or James Watson’s comments about Africans. A peccadillo. Despite the lives ruined.

  12. They’re not apologising for doing it. They’re regretting getting caught.

    As in, “I’m sorry you found out I’m having an affair”.

  13. So Much for Subtlety

    Ian B – “They’re not apologising for doing it. They’re regretting getting caught.”

    I don’t even think they are doing that. It is even worse. Their employer is simply saying they meant well and that is what counts.

    Even though what they did ruined lives.

  14. “It’s just about possible to believe that there are some dark corners of American society where gang rape is indeed an entrance to membership of a group”

    I’d even doubt that.

    I’ve done a bit of reading and gang rape is mostly done by people who already have long-established relationships – neighbours, people from religious minorities, ethnic minorities etc. People that know that everyone else in the group isn’t going to go to the cops.

    And it’s nearly always cross-race because you have the dehumanizing aspect. It’s why gang-rape happens so often in warfare. Men invade and the women of another country are fair game. They aren’t women like the women back home, they’re lesser women and can be treated that way.

  15. Well said Tim.

    It all came from the same place as Salem, the Satanic abuse cases. Societal hysteria, nowt else.

    I think it is quite a bit more than just social hysteria. There’s definitely an element of hysteria involved, but that’s only part of what’s going on.

    If I understand correctly, people caught up in mass hysteria on some level really do believe in it.

    Are we to believe that feminists believe that American universities are rape factories? C’mon. Revealed preferences time: most US college students are female. Feminist activism is much more prevalent on campus than in the general population.

    If we are to believe that they believe that American seats of learning are more rapey than downtown Soweto during a visit by Roman Polanski, then that would mean these girls are flocking to be raped. Indeed, that they’re getting into huge sums of debt – $30,000 on average, and much more at elite colleges – in order to be raped.

    And that just doesn’t make any kind of sense.

    Was the authoress of this notorious piece a victim of hysteria? Surely not. Sabrina Rubin Erdely said she shopped around American universities looking for the sort of rape story that she wanted to write. And what sort of rape story was that? One involving white (as Erdely put it, “blond”), affluent, Southerners at an elite, “traditional” school that had “no radical feminist culture seeking to upend the patriarchy”.

    In other words, a story that hit all the right demographic and political buttons Ms Erdely wished to press.

    This was conscious defamation. No different from Der Sturmer deliberately looking for a story about kinky-haired Jewish socialist rapists, and not caring very much about whether or not the story is true.

    So, no, hysteria alone doesn’t quite explain this. Hatred is involved too. Much of what now passes for feminist and progressivist activism boils down to fear and loathing of the white man.

  16. There’s more than one fraternity that uses “No means yes! Yes means anal!” as a slogan.

  17. It’s not a slogan. It’s one of those deliberately embarassing things that people are made to do when they pledge to a fraternity. Like having to eat dog food and so on. The actual incident that comes to mind was at Yale (I think) during frat week.

    Now, we could go on to say that if they’ll make people shout stuff like that then they’ll entice them into gang rape but, you know, that does seem a tad extreme.

  18. @steve – you made some typos, i correct them

    “Much of what now passes for feminist and progressivist activism boils down to fear and loathing hatred of the white man conservatives.”

  19. So Much for Subtlety

    The Stigler – “I’ve done a bit of reading and gang rape is mostly done by people who already have long-established relationships …. And it’s nearly always cross-race because you have the dehumanizing aspect. It’s why gang-rape happens so often in warfare.”

    Surely both those claims can’t be true? Gang rape is very rare. Most rape is done by people the victim knows because we protect ourselves against strangers. But does that apply to Gang rape?

    johnny bonk – “@steve – you made some typos, i correct them”

    Except being a leftist male does not protect you all that much. It is partly that being a White male and a conservative are seen as overlapping categories. But more than that, it is a hatred of Whites. There is a gang rape problem in the US. It is mainly a Black problem. The SJWs don’t care because it is not about rape.

  20. So Much for Subtlety

    Steve – “Are we to believe that feminists believe that American universities are rape factories? C’mon. Revealed preferences time: most US college students are female. …. then that would mean these girls are flocking to be raped. Indeed, that they’re getting into huge sums of debt – $30,000 on average, and much more at elite colleges – in order to be raped. And that just doesn’t make any kind of sense.”

    Makes sense to me: 50 Shades of Grey. They are not complaining about rape. They are complaining because no young, handsome, Aryan-looking billionaires is taking charge and forcing them to do the sort of things good girls don’t do.

    They are paying a lot of money to meet the right sort of man. But there aren’t any anymore.

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