Sounds reasonable enough doesn’t it?

A ginger-haired extremist accused of plotting a copycat Andres Breivik terror attack allegedly wanted to assassinate Prince Charles so Prince Harry would become king, a court has heard.

Loner Mark Colborne, who felt ‘marginalised’ because of hair colour, allegedly planned to ‘take out’ the Prince of Wales with a sniper to allow his youngest son to become heir to the throne.

Well, maybe not actually. But we’d all support rights for gingers more than we’re going to go fight for Brighton and Hove, yes?

Or have the demented porridge wogs rather tainted the brand?

37 thoughts on “Sounds reasonable enough doesn’t it?”

  1. I was rather surprised when in a television news bulletin a couple of years ago the term “gingas” was used, admittedly as slang, without any comment or explanation–which, for me, it needed, as apparently the first g is (or was) pronounced hard. It must be the vocabulary of the school playground, but it was striking that the writer of the bulletin presumably thought it was in common use. I’m not sure what circles these people move in.

  2. The Great Redacto

    A step up from gingas (my daughter tells me) is rangas – a shortening of orang-utans. Who knew?

  3. For Harry to acede he’d have had to take out Wills, George and Charlotte as well. This inadequate planning won’t do a lot to end Prejudice.

  4. Bloke in Germany

    Why don’t we cede Brighton and Hove to Spain in return for them shutting up about Gibraltar?

  5. Gingermensch are too stupid to understand inheritance. If you want Harry to become King then William and his issue are the obstacle, not Charles.

  6. Bloke in Germany

    @Roue le Jour,

    No they aren’t a problem because Wills wasn’t actually born in Hawaii.

  7. So midst all the Ginger jokes no one is concerned that making entries in a diary, owning spray bottles and receipts from Amazon for chemicals (what chemicals–of course they can’t tell you cos you might follow suite) is enough to get someone a terror trial.. As if anyone trying to make cyanide without chemical experience and a fume cupboard isn’t courting suicide. He is being tried for owning books the state doesn’t approve of. The bloke is a sad loser but ideal fodder to build the police state.

  8. Must have been ace detective work to have singled him out from the other 1.5 million Ginga extremists.

  9. Mr Ecks

    Oh yeah, I see your point. I keep exactly that stock of chemicals in those quantities and have exactly those books positioned conveniently next to the chemicals; doesn’t everyone?

    And I only read the books wearing my ginger wig.

  10. He thinks he suffered social exclusion due to being ginger. I can’t help thinking there might, just possibly, have been another reason in the mix as well.

  11. Ironbru: So you are shitting your tin nappy at the deadly threat of this sad, inadequate loons cyanide attack are you? Yeah you probably are. And the lovely precedents being set–arrested for owning books and sprays (got any empty spray cleaner bottles in your house numpty?) is quite alright with you of course. “Terror” plots that have not the slightest chance of happening are not terror plots but the ramblings of sad losers–like you. Your rambling ends up on here rather than “Dear Diary”‘d.

  12. Can I just say that this is the first time I’ve seen the term “demented porridge wog” and assume it has been coined in my absence. I rather like it.

    I assume it related to SNP supporters, which is rather disappointing as it would then not apply to me.

  13. Reading that article it seems the guy is a loony fantasist rather than a terrorist. He kept bottles of piss in his room for fucks sake. He shouldn’t be on trial, he should be in a mental hospital.

  14. Dongguan John: My point exactly. And that he is being used as a precedent for more state power/snooping (“With only 128 chemical steps Sah, these chemicools that you have bought could be converted to cyanide. I ham arresting you under Section…etc).

  15. Dongguan John

    Well of course he’s a nutter. He may well be found not to be responsible for his actions. Indeed if in a couple of months someone called something like Gingerbread Man turns up on this blog we’ll know he has been committed, probably strapped down in the bed next to Mr Ecks.

    However, he has not been charged with “owning books the state doesn’t approve of” or “making entries in a diary”. Sad loser or not, the charge is that the books were imstruction manuals and the chemicals were the ingredients the books indicated should be used for making chemical weapons

  16. Bloke in Costa Rica

    BraveFart: I coined the ”demented Porridge Wog’ sobriquet last week and for some reason it seems to have caught on round these parts.

    Ecks is right, up to a point. The likelihood that this rather sad Duracell would have been able to assassinate Charles or even get close is minuscule, so lumping him in with ISIS recruiters is a bit much, but he might have hauled off and stabbed someone else, so on balance it’s a good thing his gingernuttery was brought to light. It must have been a wrench for the brother to have shopped him to the filth, because I imagine they were quite fond of the little chap despite his follicular handicap.

  17. “Sad loser or not, the charge is that the books were imstruction manuals and the chemicals were the ingredients the books indicated should be used for making chemical weapons”

    We don’t know what the chemicals were–they might have been Steradent for all we know. And as for “instruction”books–old copies of Henley’s Formulas from days gone by–when England still resembled a free nation–will have more dangerous stuff in than the crap named.

    The bloke is unbalanced. There is no need for the scaremongering propaganda bullshit about terrorism. It suits the state to use every opportunity to peddle the fantasy that snooping and oppression are needed to “defend” us from problems that the state has mostly created in the first place.

  18. So Much for Subtlety

    Ironman – “However, he has not been charged with “owning books the state doesn’t approve of” or “making entries in a diary”. Sad loser or not, the charge is that the books were imstruction manuals and the chemicals were the ingredients the books indicated should be used for making chemical weapons”

    Charcoal? He should go to jail for charcoal?

    There, he found receipts for pine charcoal and sodium phosphate and discovered on Google they were used for explosives.

    Shocked by what he had found, he told the court that he drove to see his mother Patricia at the Animal Rescue where she worked. They then met at the house to investigate further.

    He said: ‘Mum was the first person into the room… She picked up a cardboard box and we gathered round. I can recall pulling out a bottle of distilled water, scales, iron oxide and a brown bottle.

    So iron oxide, sodium phosphate and charcoal? Come on. I am sure most of us had chemistry sets as children that contained more dangerous chemicals than this. It sounds more like someone with stomach problems than a designer of weapons of mass destruction.

    The books were not quite instruction manuals were they?

    When police were called they found books about poisons and explosives titled ‘Silent Death’, ‘Assorted Nasties’, and ‘The Poor Man’s James Bond’, the court heard.

    Odd, even unpleasant. But not exactly a terrorist handbook.

    Detectives also found spray bottles which could be used to squirt cyanide at his victims and a chemical that helped poisons penetrate through the skin, it is claimed.

    OK. Who here does not have a spray bottle at home?

    The poor man is clearly disturbed and should be sectioned. But when he says:

    The Old Bailey heard how, in another entry, Colborne allegedly promised to target the prince ‘for the Aryan people’, adding: ‘If I had the right weapon, military grade sniper rifle, I would take out Prince Charles and a few others for the sake of the Aryan people.

    The key word is “if”.

    I am all for more security laws. But they ought to be used against real terrorists. Maybe he could have escalated to something more serious. Maybe not. But this is a case that should not have gone to court. He was not within a million miles of an actual terrorist attack. No weapon, no serious chemicals, no preparation, no clue.

  19. God help us when the first ginger Islamists turn up. They’ll instantly get a gig on Comment Is Free – the Twateratti will worship them as gods.

  20. One of is thinks it was was charcoal “He should go to jail for cjarcoal”. Another one of us insists we don’t know what the chemicals are.
    But both automatically presume the Police and CPS have just picked up a poor unfortunate man with a complex about the colour of his hair and are subjecting the poor unfortunate to the the full might of the law for no reason.

    As I say, when he goes for his evening pills from Nurse Ratchet there’ll be a couple from this blog standing in line with him.

  21. @ Mr Ecks
    To say that just because he is unbalanced he isn’t a danger is just plain stupid (or worse). A verdict of “Not Guilty on grounds of insanity” does not bring any victim back to life.

  22. There are a lot of drop dead gorgeous ginger females out there. My scientific research is limited to one sample but I have conducted studies for 37 years and am able to conclude that they are friendly, loveable creatures who are like tigers in the sack.

  23. So Much for Subtlety

    Ironman – “One of is thinks it was was charcoal “He should go to jail for cjarcoal”. Another one of us insists we don’t know what the chemicals are.”

    Well the only ones mentioned so far are pretty harmless. He may have a stash of gelignite under the bed, maybe some plutonium. But the Tellie did not see fit to mention it.

    He certainly did not, as you claimed, have instruction manuals.

    “But both automatically presume the Police and CPS have just picked up a poor unfortunate man with a complex about the colour of his hair and are subjecting the poor unfortunate to the the full might of the law for no reason.”

    It pains me to say this but it does come down to whom do we trust. I would like to trust the Police and the CPS. I would like to think they have evidence. But if they do, they are keeping shtum about it so far. I don’t think that the CPS is entitled to automatic trust these days. Unfortunately.

    “As I say, when he goes for his evening pills from Nurse Ratchet there’ll be a couple from this blog standing in line with him.”

    I look forward to saying hi when you get here.

    john77 – “To say that just because he is unbalanced he isn’t a danger is just plain stupid (or worse). A verdict of “Not Guilty on grounds of insanity” does not bring any victim back to life.”

    Well if he is this unbalanced – and really hoarders who are not scrupulously clean rarely make good bomb makers, at least not for long – it is going to be hard for him to be all that effective. But let’s agree. A person killed by the mentally ill is just as dead. It is just that the Courts are not the proper venue for dealing with the mentally ill. He should be sectioned.

    DocBud – “There are a lot of drop dead gorgeous ginger females out there.”

    Doc, I hope you don’t take this the wrong way, but you’re a [email protected] A right proper [email protected] And I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

  24. So Much for Subtlety

    Bloke in Germany – “Why don’t we cede Brighton and Hove to Spain in return for them shutting up about Gibraltar?”

    Morocco tried that and it has not shut them up one little bit.

    Apparently stealing parts of North Africa and refusing to give them back is nothing like taking the Rock.

  25. In France last week, I could have bought sulphuric acid, acetone, sodium hydroxide and weed killers in a normal hypermarket. Am I a terrorist?

  26. Ironman, I don’t think anyone is saying this guy should be free to walk the streets. It sounds like he was more of a danger to himself and those living in the house with him than anyone else. You’d have thought a sensible police force would have had him sectioned so he could be given the help he obviously needs before he blows up his bedroom or accidentally gasses everyone at at home rather than try him like he’s Osama Bin Laden.

    Regarding the evidence found.
    Should writing disturbing fantasies about killing people be illegal? No.
    Should owning some chemicals be illegal? No.
    Should owning those books be illegal? No.

    However, I agree that someone found with all three should be investigated.

  27. Dongguan John

    Er, I think “free to walk the streets” is exactly what Ecks and SMFS are indeed saying.
    There is a trial going on and one of the issues will be his responsibility. Of course, in Loopy-Juice-Conspiracyland that is all an evil stitch-up.

  28. Look, we can’t have it both ways. He can’t just have been ‘reading books’ and collecting a few harmless everyday chemicals and still be certifiable. If he is attempting to create a chemical weapon then we should be taking anninterest; his personal responsibility becks a point at issue after that

  29. Ironman you are a prize idiot. No one has said he should be walking the streets. He clearly is troubled and in need of some help. So. are. you.

    What he should not be is the object of a political show trial designed to prove that we are assailed on all sides by deadly terror killers and must give up all freedoms left to us so that Big Daddy state can “protect” us all.

    I do not trust either the police or the CPS. But if the security services are involved trust is so long dead it is mummified. In the US most terror plots are a load of codged-up shite put together by the FBI to entrap mouth-fighters. They use agent provocateurs to trick the mugs off the Internet and supply them with plans, cash and even explosives. Then they announce to the world how they have foiled another deadly plot that would never have existed outside of fantasy but for their antics. Over here blowing-up sad little nutjobs into deadly threats is the more usual tactic. All these antics are to spread fear on behalf of the Security State.

    The security they are thinking of is, of course, theirs rather than ours.

  30. So, in short, you have not “said he should be walking the streets”. Well I say he should be… unless and until we show a very good reason why he shouldn’t. Have we? Have you a good reason you can SHOW? If you can SHOW us, then show. On what are you basing the your opinion that “He clearly is troubled and in need of some help”? Would it be the same court proceedings you have so completely trashed?

    Thoese court proceedings have brought forward evidence that actually he is indeed trying to make a bomb. You have dismissed this out of hand saying that he is being tried for “reading books the state doesn’t approve of”. Again, what do you have to support this charge against security services, police, CPS, judges AND defence Counsel whilst we’re at it? That, what evidence other than your own infallible opinion?

    Which brings us back full circle: if that is what has happened – and your long missive about US trials indicates that this IS your contention – then what actually has he done to merit the, ahem, ‘help’ he “clearly”(?) needs?

    In fact, don’t bother. You Mr Interested-Ecks-SMFS are a complete conspiracy theory nutjob.

  31. “Thoese court proceedings have brought forward evidence that actually he is indeed trying to make a bomb”

    He was supposed to be making cyanide.

    And to a small degree you are almost right. I don’t KNOW that he is a nutter. He may just be an eccentric. The extracts from his diary suggest he might have some problems. He would need to be properly examined by several psychs to make an assessment (and frankly the coppers etc should have little involvement at all). Psychiatry as a profession is quite bogus and it is far too easy to get someone sectioned in this country–that is to say there are not enough safeguards in the system. But dangerously deluded people do exist in the world–ie deluded such that they may harm others from their delusion. So some kind of court proceedings maybe needed. Even if such proceedings may be required to section him, that is nothing like the bogus “terror” trial which he is getting.

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