Fair Tax Mark on Today ProgrammeJune 9, 2015 Tim WorstallRagging on Ritchie35 Comments53 minutes in. Absolutely monstered. Poor, poor Ritchie. previousPaying the fair amount of taxnextOvercompensate much? 35 thoughts on “Fair Tax Mark on Today Programme” AndyC June 9, 2015 at 10:00 am Don’t have the opportunity to listen. What happened? Tim Newman June 9, 2015 at 10:05 am 54 minutes. But yes, who allowed this retard onto national radio? Good grief, what a car crash. Not quite on Natalie Bennett levels, but close. The Meissen Bison June 9, 2015 at 10:06 am It was joyous. Fair Tax Mark deployed as fig-leaf by an out and out wrong ‘un, a sort of Elmer Gantry and Tartuffe rolled into one but without the brains and who was effortlessly taken apart by Jim Naughtie. AndyC June 9, 2015 at 10:25 am Ah, snuck off and listened in a quiet part of the office. I think that the sooner they get Richard Murphy on to defend the Fair Tax Mark in interview with Naughtie the better. I’d pay to sit in the audience for that. Paul June 9, 2015 at 10:53 am Precis “It’s complete cr*p really but it sounds good so we thought we’d sign up for it”. Shades of putting Arbeit Macht Frei outside Auschwitz. Rob June 9, 2015 at 11:04 am The Today program is a Neo-Liberal conspiracy! HD June 9, 2015 at 11:30 am I feel like I am now party to some kind of crime by listening to this. Sam Jones June 9, 2015 at 12:10 pm And no link on Ritchie’s blog. What a surprise! Umbongo June 9, 2015 at 12:12 pm The CEO of SSE was even channelling Ed Balls by dropping the “T” at the end of the apposite words. Wonderful stuff: Naughtie was obviously pretty disgusted and I wouldn’t be surprised if after the broadcast he was metaphorically counting his spoons. Frederick June 9, 2015 at 1:23 pm What this shows is that one reason for the paying to have the Fair Tax Mark is to buy some moral high ground when you have some dodginess to cover up. Frederick June 9, 2015 at 1:37 pm Murphy has replied to my kind remark. worzel June 9, 2015 at 1:41 pm Frederick, Fish on worzel June 9, 2015 at 1:42 pm And it’s a whopper in all senses of the word Hallowed Be June 9, 2015 at 1:55 pm paused it as it began to go South.. Cringe organs cannot take that loading. Will listen to some verdi and then return. Ben S June 9, 2015 at 2:02 pm Tim, I’d be quite interested to have the ins and outs of negative interest rates explained to me – as currently is the case in Switzerland, if you were lacking in future topics (unlikely, I know). Tim Worstall June 9, 2015 at 2:07 pm We don’t think there will ever be significant negative interest rates for any length of time. The lower bound being that at some point it becomes cheaper to move into cash and store that. So, what’s the cost of a decent safe? That’s how negative interest rates can go. So, roughly speaking, the effects not going to be all that large. abacab June 9, 2015 at 2:13 pm “So, what’s the cost of a decent safe? ” And insurance…………………… Anyway, the upside is I just closed a 5-yr fixed mortgage deal for 1.17% 🙂 David June 9, 2015 at 2:52 pm @abacab “Anyway, the upside is I just closed a 5-yr fixed mortgage deal for 1.17% :)” Is that including the fees? AndyC June 9, 2015 at 2:57 pm abacab – who with? What’s the maximum LTV they would do? Cheers Rob June 9, 2015 at 3:00 pm I was wondering who that middle aged bloke in glasses was who was stumbling through Shepherds Budh in a daze this morning. Arnald June 9, 2015 at 4:02 pm Hardly a monstering. Murphy wasn’t broadcast. It’s all obvious or trivial except when it’s trivial. And so obvious to be trivial. Except rape and gays, which you find not obvious, but trivial. From Portugal. The Lord High Tat Describer. abacab June 9, 2015 at 4:14 pm @David – yes, no fees. You only get fees if you’re dumb enough to go direct. @AndyC – Credit Suisse, via Moneypark. 5-yr fixed, LTV of 58% on a small place, not owner-occupied (most lenders weren’t interested cos the mortgage was too small). Conditions included a BonViva Silver package and agreeing to park a certain amount of savings with them. Plus, amortising 1’900 p.a. until LTV=50% Lowest LTV is probably 80% for owner-occupied. If you’re in CH, go to Moneypark. I mentioned them to Postfinance and the guy laughed and said “of course you got a better deal than we could give you direct!” Ironman June 9, 2015 at 4:16 pm Hi Arnald Mummy let’s you use the family PC again does she? Ironman June 9, 2015 at 4:17 pm Re the interview: it’s the pause when he realises he is going to be challenged that I love. abacab June 9, 2015 at 4:17 pm Gah. lowest LTV = highest LTV…… AndyC June 9, 2015 at 4:36 pm @Arnald It was the Fair Tax Mark that got devalued as not realy being any sort of indication that a company is morally superior. And that is bad news for Murphaloon as he was hoping that the Fair Tax Mark Limited would be capable of shovelling out £100k+ a year in staff and consultancy fees into tax research, no doubt with some of that shovelled his way. Ain’t going to happen. AndyC June 9, 2015 at 4:36 pm @abacab – Ta. Arnald June 9, 2015 at 5:07 pm Ironman/AndyC So you love the guy hesitating when trying to do a live interview about the company he works for. The fair tax mark was mentioned once with respect to a PR initiative to gain some sort public credibility. It wasn’t Murphy saying that. At the very least there is a recognition that SSE are twats. And so what if there is a need to create enough income to pay wages and research. And there is a support on this forum that always defends those big-corps that control the markets. SSE may well be trying to be more transparent about their accounting processes. The free market needs transparency in order to function as the theory dictates. Mr Ecks June 9, 2015 at 6:23 pm Arnie–The state controls –or tries to-the markets. It may grant money and privilege to certain corporations who are its buddies. However being buddies with the state is akin to being pals with Cesare Borgia.–you are always only one mood swing away from being stabbed and thrown down a marble staircase. This system is that variant of your own dear socialism known as corporate socialism (fascism being a word debased to meaninglessness by leftist con-men like yourself). Murphy is a self-serving leftist parasite but you obviously cannot hold that against him because so are you. John miller June 9, 2015 at 9:25 pm Naughty was obviously blissfully unaware that he was, in attacking a nasty big capitalist company, also shredding a fellow lefty. It obviously didn’t occur to him that a fellow lefty who thinks the State should do everything would set up a private organisation to do a job normally done by the State. The Meissen Bison June 10, 2015 at 12:52 am >John Miller That’s rather good observation and clears up the bit that had me scratching my head. Thanks Interested June 10, 2015 at 5:25 am Bit late to that. A classic example of how you can never prostrate yourself enough, and attempts to do so mostly lead to contempt. I’d not have been surprised if Naughtie offered him a pistol with which to do the decent thing, and then led demands for his body to be buried in an unmarked grave filled with quicklime. It’s never enough, they are only interested in total victory and we need to recognise that and fight them on the same terms. Interested June 10, 2015 at 5:26 am Also btw a classic example of the moronic wimps infesting much of British business, and of the BBC reliance on meaningless polls of idiots as long as they support the general BBC line. So a threefer. Ironman June 10, 2015 at 8:08 am Actually Arnald, Murphy was due to be on the programme with him but got dumped. AndyC June 10, 2015 at 10:49 am @Ironman “Murphy was due to be on the programme with him but got dumped.” So he claims. But then he often claims he was invited to speak on TV or at a conference but it got cancelled at the last minute or he was taken ill and it fell through. I think there’s an element of Walter Mitty here. Like his repeated references to important people he speaks to who agree with him but can’t go on the record. Or the journalists who ask him to explain something which explanation he then turns into a blog. Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. 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