Ukip has been banned from one of Britain’s biggest gay pride parades in an apparent U-turn by organisers who say they are worried about the safety of participants.
The inclusion of Ukip in the original lineup of the Pride in London march set for 27 June had been controversial.
Many in the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community spoke out against the involvement of the party, which has been linked to a string of allegedly homophobic controversies.
Following the creation of a petition calling for the party to be banned, Pride organisers said they had rejected Ukip’s application to take part on safety grounds. Organisers said the decision was not politically motivated.
So, the party with the first transgender MEP, a party with at least one gay current MEP, that’s the party that can’t walk down the street in the name of gay rights.
Sure, there’s nothing political about this at all, is there?
Same old same old with ‘liberals’: I believe in freedom of speech, provided yy say things I like
I was on Thursday at a committee meeting that followed an AGM of my Catholic Newman Circle. We are ALL OF COURSE very comitted to conscience and expression and strongly resist an attempt by bishops to stop certain speakers on church proprty. However, when it comes to a priest from a parish that uses the Latin mass ( extraordinary rite) visiting us and speaking, the objections flow. When I responded by reminding people of our proud commitment the reasoning changed to crap such as “He might feel more comfortable speaking in his own parish.” Same bollocks as Pride’s “saftey” concerns.
Do the organisers have the power to ban anyone from lawfully walking down a public street?
Seems very 2 faced – rights for me, not for thee.
But you can’t really be “gay” unless you are in an approved bit of the political left.
Right-wingers just bonk people of the same sex.
The irony of this shower demanding that other people be banned seems entirely lost on them.
An all out war on the left is now a matter of priority. Cutting off taxpayer funding for all of the lefts gangs would force them to try and peddle their shite in the marketplace. And be out of business in a month.
In the context of a permissions-applied-for, police and council approved parade, yes. Objecting groups can be identified on the forms and your stewards or the police can then zone them away from your parade.
Normally, in the context of (west coast or playing at it) porridge woggery, used to keep the Fenians and the Orange-nutters separated by slightly more than the British Standard lob distance of a half brick. Seems overkill for London Pride, but then if Peter Tatchell’s middle name isn’t “Overkill” …
This is – of course – largely political, with a petition started by a soon to be Student Union Official at Leeds Beckett University.
https://www.change.org/p/the-board-and-senior-team-pride-in-london-board-remove-ukip-from-london-pride-march-2015?recruiter=90132111&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_twitter_responsive
Would be fun if they sued.
Is there any point in gay pride marches now? I get what they were about – getting out there, saying you were gay and proud to be, solidarity etc in a homophobic era. But that era has passed. A pop star or actor coming out is met with indifference.
Ukip would have been better off being less astonishingly naive and not paid any attention to this event which has nothing to do with their stated objectives as a party. They’ve tried to join in with what has always been a lefty-dominated and highly politicised event presumably in order to appear modern and popular, and found themselves excluded. I wonder what message this sends to Ukip voters who voted for them precisely because they were fed up with this kind of populist shite.
Stigler,
The Simpsons made this point well over a decade ago.
From the episode Jaws Wired Shut, which aired on 27th January 2002 and featured a Gay Pride parade in Springfield:
Gay Group: :chanting during gay pride parade: “We’re here, we’re queer, get used to it!”
Lisa Simpson: “You do this every year, we are used to it.”
Guy in Gay Group: “Spoil sport!”
It’s like the Parades in Northern Ireland: it has become a tradition. No doubt there’ll be all sorts of haggling over the exact route in years to come: “What do you mean we can’t march down that road? We’ve always marched along that road. What difference does it make that there’s a new mosque and that the road is known locally as Mohammed Mile?”
Can UKIP ban gays from its meetings?
Just askin’…
“Same old same old with ‘liberals’: I believe in freedom of speech, provided yy say things I like”
I’ve just realised how stupid and hypocritical this makes me look. Obviously it doesn’t apply to me with my attempts to abuse and shout down anyone I even think might hold a slightly non PC view.
Ironman – “I’ve just realised how stupid and hypocritical this makes me look. Obviously it doesn’t apply to me with my attempts to abuse and shout down anyone I even think might hold a slightly non PC view.”
+1
I assume your Twitter feed has been hacked. But which one?
Tim Newman – “I wonder what message this sends to Ukip voters who voted for them precisely because they were fed up with this kind of populist shite.”
That UKIP is not ready for prime time? It would have been useful if the aim was to show the Gay movement as the authoritarian if not totalitarian c*nts they are. But I doubt it was. I think they just wanted to be down with Da Yoof.
They would have done better to say the time for this sort of thing is over and the traffic should not be interrupted any longer.
I think they just wanted to be down with Da Yoof.
I tend to agree. How’s that gonna work out for them I wonder?
I’m not sure ‘they’, (if by ‘they’ you mean the UKIP politburo), wanted anything from this, let alone to ‘get down with da yoof’. I just think some gay members wanted to march with ‘Pride’, (see what I did there).
The episode does show that when the left politicises, (‘marches through’), an organisation, it turns it first into a vicious parody and then into a laughing stock.
Da yoof will see this – they’re not all dumb – and react accordingly. I’m not sure that the gays will prosper when the backlash eventually comes.
How many lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgenders does it take to make a community?
Apologies to Chamfort.
in order to protect participants and ensure the event passes off safely and in the right spirit
Ah the old “safety of participants” canard.
In other words, if you turn up someone might punch you and therefore you are banned for your own safety and so we don’t have to deal with the confrontation.
Matt W-
The petition organiser (33-26-37). The funny part of this is that the Establishment really do think they’re still the counterculture, it seems.
I feel strongly that LGBTinUKIP should be able to join this Parade. Will UKIP be promoting legislation absolving parade organizers of any liability in the event of affray during a public procession?
If UKIP was really all equality they’d have got a transgender homosexual in squirrel costume elected to Brussels by now.
“I am currently an undergraduate BSc (Hons) Psychology student studying at Leeds Beckett University. My main interests are feminism and gender studies as well as social justice, critical psychology and forensic psychology. I am taking a sabbatical year during 2015/16 after being elected by students as the university’s next Vice President Welfare. I am hoping to then go on to complete MRes and PhD, researching women students’ experiences of lad culture with a look at the intersections of race and sexuality.”
AKA unemployable.
Surreptitious Evil: that reminds me of a funny story I heard. It only works if you read it in a Norn Iron accent.
A Sergeant and a Constable are patrolling along the Falls Road.
A flying saucer lands and a little green man gets out.
Constable: “Oy! Who are you, and what are you doing?”
Little Green Man: “I’m a Martian-”
Sergeant (interrupting): “NOT ALONG THIS ROAD, YOU’RE NOT!”
Mr Interested-Ecks-SMFS
No not hacked. just a tit like you trying to be clever.
And I’m not PC, I just believe in the right to call out a Thick.Racist.Prick when I come across one. And yes, I do believe I better than you.
“I am currently an undergraduate BSc (Hons) Psychology student studying at Leeds Beckett University. My main interests are feminism and gender studies as well as social justice, critical psychology and forensic psychology. I am taking a sabbatical year during 2015/16 after being elected by students as the university’s next Vice President Welfare. I am hoping to then go on to complete MRes and PhD, researching women students’ experiences of lad culture with a look at the intersections of race and sexuality.”
AKA I’m shite with girls and I’m hoping all of this might get me a handjob…
Ironman just fuck off.
You’re a fucking annoying self righteous prick.
The problem isn’t we’re used to it its that we’re bored with it.
They’ve largely got what they wanted, equality and recognition, bar a few problems around edges and a few homophobes kicking around, but they’ll all die off eventually like resistance to all social changes.
But they’re like attention seeking 2-year-olds and just have to get more and more outrageous and vocal with each passing year to try to provoke a reaction from the rest of us but all the get is a meh. If it wasn’t for the likes of the beeb most of us wouldn’t know, let alone care, that they are are throwing the equivalent of a 2-year-old’s paddy in a supermarket.
These things are just part of the Establishment calendar these days anyway, like Glastonbury. The funny thing is they still seem to believe they are in some way part of the counter-culture.
BiND Hit the nail on the head.
When Sir Ian ‘I’m a homosexual you know?’ Mckellen came out, the industrial levels of apathy from everyone just drove the campometer off the scale.
Social Justice Warrior – “I feel strongly that LGBTinUKIP should be able to join this Parade.”
I hate acronyms. I was sitting there for a good few seconds wondering what the f**k “Tin” was.
Bloke in Germany in Croatia – “If UKIP was really all equality they’d have got a transgender homosexual in squirrel costume elected to Brussels by now.”
Time for someone to imitate Jim Hacker and rise to Number 10 by insisting they can have our transgender homosexuals dressed as squirrels when they prise them from our cold dead hands?
I think we need to send a clear message to Brussels – hands off our Furry Lady Boys.
Yawn.
Years ago, I was on the committee of the then Conservative Group for Homosexual Equality and was tasked with getting use the use of a room at the then London Lesbian and Gay Centre in Cowcross Street. It became evident from their attitude and their failure to reply to letters or answer phone calls that we were the wrong sort of gays to be allowed in the building.
Nowadays,I prefer to describe myself as a bloke who fancies blokes. ‘Gay’ has become too politically charged.
Machiavelli – “AKA unemployable.”
There seems to be a lot of them about these days:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3113300/Oxford-college-forced-student-not-allowing-extra-time-prepare-exams-disabilities-called-histrionic.html
Sophie Spector, 22, who won a place to study politics, philosophy and economics at Balliol College, said she was made to go on medical leave with the college suggesting she be seen by a doctor who could be ‘firm with histrionics’.
Miss Spector, who also has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and obsessive compulsive disorder, said the 752-year-old college’s attitude towards her disabilities and mental health condition had been ‘callous’.
….
She said: ‘The key thing I wanted was extended time for essays because I am a really slow reader.
‘I didn’t ask to sit my exams later. I was given more exams with higher pass marks than everyone else. I had to get 55 to pass while my friend was allowed to continue with a pass mark in the 40s. I asked for extended deadlines for course work.
‘But they just dismissed it and I started to struggle and fall behind.’
….
‘My tutor said I should be more normal and join the pack. She suggested my disability was in my head and due to the Facebook and social media culture.
Well yes, honey, almost by definition ADHD is in your head. But you have to feel sorry for them. She is a slow reader? Perhaps PPE was not for her.
In other bat-sh!t crazy student news, Mattress Girl has made a porn video with some fat dude. But presumably this is a stepping stone to a career in the feminist academic or NGO world.
The problem is she’s not unemployable. Unemployable in any capacity that most people would recognise as useful, yes, but Student Union staff officer is a paid position. Natural justice would seem to demand that she, along with the risible flock of bell-ends at Kommentar macht Frei and the entire UK Uncut movement, die in a ditch from kwashiorkor, but it’s one of the sad ironies of a modern capitalist society that it can generate sufficient excess wealth as to permit its parasites to wax fat.
“Miss Spector, who also has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and obsessive compulsive disorder”
Must be a first having an attention deficit and being an obsessive compulsive. The mental gymnastics must be prodigious!
“I must, I must!”…….”Can’t be bothered.” ad infinitum.
What a great wife she will make.
IanB,
“These things are just part of the Establishment calendar these days anyway, like Glastonbury. The funny thing is they still seem to believe they are in some way part of the counter-culture.”
Once these things achieve their objective and become mainstream, you’re just left with the leaders who profit from it and the posers. The posers like to pretend they’re part of the counter-culture, when really, they waited until it became mainstream, when such views were no longer risky.
I’ll also include political comedy in that list. We had 12 years of Labour, infested with political correctness, and the opposition to that was from even further to the left, like Stewart Lee. Surely there a good, libertarian comic out there, like a British Doug Stanhope. Or am I going to have to do this?
Ironman : ” And yes, I do believe I better than you.”
This is about the tenth time you have said the above form of words. The phrase is “I am better than you”.Got.it. I AM better than you.
Or are you peddling some Satanic SJW mirror image of Martin Buber’s stuff: “I (better)– Thou”
Ironman is either typing everything on a ZX81 or loses his shit way too easily.
Ironman – I think johnnydub has summed you up just about perfectly. This isn’t your blog, you know.
Just thought I’d remind us all that Ironman is often a valuable contributor, bringing a good helping of the sort of wit and intellect that makes this blog so enjoyable.
If everyone on here only agreed with everyone else, it would be a less good blog, deffo.