The really important euro question

Having meetings at 3 am to sort this out.

Which gives us the important question: how on Earth did they keep Juncker sober at such an hour?

24 thoughts on “The really important euro question”

  1. So Much for Subtlety

    I think the more important question is whether Juncker drunk makes more sense than Juncker sober.

  2. Bloke in North Dorset

    There are any number of things wrong with the EU (and EZ) but their penchant for making crucial decisions after all night negotiations, sober or drunk, has to be up their with the barmiest.

  3. Quite. Churchill would never have done it. Tucked up with his cocoa and teddy bear by 9:30 sharp. Only way to defeat the hun, that.

  4. Bloke in North Dorset

    Churchill was mainly reading briefs, writing speeches and looking at overall strategy not negotiating with his enemies all the time.

    He also went to bed (he got undressed and put is jimjams on) in the afternoons so got his sleep at different times.

  5. Well, this is hardly surprising. Having failed to establish sound principles and stick to them, the EU managers are finding themselves pulling all-nighters discussing the minute details of each and every problem.

    Anyone who’s worked in a French company would recognise this. It comes from the hubris of thinking you are so smart you don’t need guiding principles, your brilliance will suffice to solve any problem you may encounter.

  6. “The question now is whether this is a real deal that will put the Greek economy on the road to recovery or whether the can has just been kicked a little further down the road.”

    So the Greeks are now set to be signed up by their own political scum to a deal worse than the one they rejected last week. A deal such that –as far as is so far known–there seems to have little chance of Greece being willing or able to keep to its terms.

    Their pork-faced leader has proved to be such a gutless worm when push came to shove that it really does suggest some sort of personal threat has been made against him or his.

    Nothing has changed and nothing will be solved or resolved. The rotten empire limps on for a while longer.

  7. Never mind, I expect that when they put the deal to the vote in the next Greek referndum, the voters will reject it. After all, they rejected the last deal and that was far less austere.

    There will be another referendum, won’t there?

  8. @Tim, I have a French client at the moment. The classic ruse is:

    (1) produce some bullshit
    (2) be told it’s bullshit by supplier (i.e. me) and given a sensible replacement.
    (3) Defend the bullshit and insist on its correctness.
    (4) someone else takes my sensible wording as their own (well who cares, we just want to get this done, right?) and replaces the bullshit with the sensible wording.
    (5) Demand to know why your sensible stuff was yet again changed to bullshit without your agreement.
    (6) Change the sensible stuff back to bullshit and insist it’s your domain and you are right.
    (7) Senior management demands supplier to explain why they have produced such bullshit.
    (8) Change bullshit to sensible stuff and claim the credit for it.

  9. So Much for Subtlety

    Martin Davies – “The peeple ave spooken. Now the peeple get ignored.”

    The Left has another chance to stand up for their principles. A good one would be Clause Four:

    To secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange, and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each industry or service.

    The Left has changed from people who supported the workers keeping the full fruits of their industry, to people who support everyone but the workers keeping their money.

    In this case, the Greek lumpenproletariat voted for more German money and the Germans declined to go along with them. Naturally the Left thinks this is outrageous.

    Personally at some point the Tories should adopt Clause 4.

  10. I forgot, approximately (5a): Go on holiday for the most critical 5 weeks of the project.

    Hence I find myself alone in the office today: Monday is the pont between the weekend and tomorrow’s Bastille Day.

    One of the amusing things about French project management is they take a fixed, arbitrary duration for all projects, e.g. engineering will take 3 months. And then they put that in the schedule regardless of the actual scope. They have to do this because if they’re given a variable duration it will never get finished. So they fix a delivery date, and then run about trying to get everything done for that date which is cast in stone. The problem is, what gets served up on that date is equivalent to a cake which is supposed to be baked for 3 hours but instead got 20 minutes. So in 6 months time they decide it needs to be “optimised”, i.e. done properly, but the same thing happens over and over.

  11. Personally at some point the Tories should adopt Clause 4.

    I’m waiting for the calls to reinstate Section 28 because it promotes homosexuality over and above transexuality. It’s only a matter of time.

  12. isn’t Juncker a nasty prod-nosed Puritan at heart? No booze on The Lord’s Day and all that*

    *pissed as a little beetle every other night, mind

  13. @JackC,

    You’ll have noticed that the commission is considered a step up by those former prime ministers of Belgium, Luxembourg, and France. Has-beens.

    From the UK, the commission doesn’t even get has-beens. Rather, the commission gets Britain’s “never-wases”. Mandelson, Britten, Patten, Kinnock, etc.

  14. Sending our losers / political car crashes to Brussels was never our smartest move. The UK at our worst (see also not joining international football competitions, etc).

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