And Ms. Proudman’s Stellar Career Continues

Institutional sexism in the legal profession is under scrutiny again following remarks about gender equality in the judiciary by one of the country’s most senior judges. Jonathan Sumption’s views exemplify perfectly what is wrong with the way women in the legal profession are viewed by those in the highest echelons of power.

So, slag off some senior male lawyer for sexism, misogyny even, get columns in Guardian denouncing entire legal system.

Modern career moves, eh?

28 thoughts on “And Ms. Proudman’s Stellar Career Continues”

  1. I suspect the senior editors at the Guardian had multiple, squirting orgasms when this harpy reared her head for the first time: another 12 months (at least) of cheap (or free) click-bait articles.

  2. “…he cautioned against doing anything that might make male candidates feel “the cards are stacked against them”. Wouldn’t it be awful if men enjoying the privilege of an imbalance of power felt this privilege threatened? “

    Translation: “It’s our turn now, penis-owners!”

    This isn’t equality. It’s privilege applied to a different set, that’s all.

  3. The latest in a long line of imbeciles who could do with being airlifted INTO Eastern Syria to experience real discrimination

  4. There is something bothering me about this whole fiasco. Ms Proudman is a barrister and is only 27 years old. I have been told by barristers that until you get silk, you have no social life due to the fact that you are constantly working your arse off. Yet, Ms Proudman has the time for a media profile, time to write article for the Guardian newspaper, and has been allowed by her chambers to take a sabbatical to do a PhD.

    Either the Chambers has too many barristers and not enough work or the Chambers needed some way of keeping her away from cases.

    Or maybe Ms Proudman is trying to lay the foundation of a political career.

  5. Salamander – “Or maybe Ms Proudman is trying to lay the foundation of a political career.”

    I for one, not only welcome our new Lesbian Overlords, (although I am curious about whether she will consume us captive earth men or merely enslave us) but also think that whatever she does, from studying for a Ph.D. or running for office, is a small mercy for the justice system and anyone caught in its coils.

  6. In my admittedly Jurassic period experience, most women who were not lezzas and with a seemingly consistent dislike of men simply weren’t getting enough. I also wonder if Ms Proudman might be laying early foundations to bag a Hollywood A-lister in future, like Mrs Clooney?

  7. Is Ms Proudman a lesbian? I thought she had a boy friend who worked for a hedge fund. Makes me wonder who is paying for the PhD, given she is on sabbatical and is probably not earning any money from the barrister business.

  8. Modern career moves, eh?

    Yarp. I suspected as much when she made a big fuss out of her Linkydinky thing. She was a barrister for all of five minutes before deciding to do some sort of PhD instead.

    A lot of folks don’t realise how poorly paid lawyers and even barristers can be these days. They’re ten a penny and thousands more new ones come along every year.

    I read somewhere that on average new solicitors are lucky to make £25k. Partners are averaging something like £60k. If you’re lucky enough to work in one of the big City firms you can do much better, but they’re ferociously competitive, expect you to work 80 hours a week, and you have all the expense of living in or near London.

    That’s shit money when you’ve spent the best part of a decade on your law degree, diploma and training.

    So professional feminism might not be as daft a career move as it looks. Anita Sarkeesian took in $440,000 from individual donations alone last year. That’s not including her speakers fees and media appearance fees, and the corporate SJWgeld the likes of Intel are sending her way. If she isn’t a millionaire already, she soon will be.

    The market for professional feminism is probably less lucrative in the UK, but compared with stressful, sleepless nights spent poring over boring legal documents in exchange for a mediocre income, it could be a much sweeter gig for the right womyn.

  9. Salamander:

    “Either the Chambers has too many barristers and not enough work or the Chambers needed some way of keeping her away from cases.”

    The key is which one she works for: Mansfield.

  10. Mansfield are the lefty lawyers who do loads of “Ooman rites” stuff. One of their drones in the Guardian writing loads of stuff about the terrible ooman rites abuses in the UK is probably better for business than her grafting on some low level case in the courts.

  11. Steve,

    I appreciate that barristers aren’t that well-paid, but surely it’s still better than a column at the Guardian? Granted the latter is much less work, but still.

  12. That’s shit money when you’ve spent the best part of a decade on your law degree, diploma and training.

    There’s also the limitation that you can’t work overseas as easily as those who study medicine or engineering. An English-trained barrister is fuck all use in Russia. An English-trained engineer is a lot of use, as fundamentally it’s all the same stuff.

  13. Salamander – “Is Ms Proudman a lesbian?”

    I have no idea. But I think we can see the tree in the seed. In the sense no man in his right mind would want part of that much longer. Whatever benefits she brings is utterly negated by her attitude and so British male is so beaten down and emasculated to put up with that for long.

  14. Andrew M – surely it’s still better than a column at the Guardian?

    Almost certainly, the Guardian probably paid her peanuts for that article.

    But if she does want to become a professional female supremacist, it’s great exposure. If she can get a regular column, do the BBC circuit, maybe get a well-paid quango or “charity” job, it might turn out well for her.

    She was obviously bored of the law anyway, else she’d be doing that.

    Laurie Penny’s out of the country so there’s an opening for her.

  15. If that was just online then it’s £85. If in the paper, perhaps £300.

    Even no name freelancing is well paid, if only you can get enough gigs.

  16. Not sure what sort of work she holds herself out as doing. But Mansfield is a criminal Silk. If that’s her bag, her experience level would place her partly in the magistrates’ court bracket – about £50 for a trial – and partly at the lower end of the Crown court bracket, where she could easily spend three days in court for the grand sum of £500.

    The foregoing is before costs and tax.

  17. And to think for years I have kicked myself for not studying law at university…..

    Perhaps I did make the right choice.

  18. Edward Lud
    “But Mansfield is a criminal Silk”.
    Allegedly.
    I believe he was released without charge after a night in the cells.

  19. Machiavelli
    Apropos of that, there used to be a swimwear shop in Colwyn Bay called Bona Watersports.
    We never knew if they knew . . .

  20. So Much For Subtlety

    Dennis the Peasant – “Let’s hope she gets what she wants.”

    Well we can probably be fairly sure she will get less male attention. A decade before she could expect it to evaporate naturally.

    I for one welcome this development. She can enjoy not being paid compliments by men to her heart’s content.

  21. And, btw, Sumption is where he is because he’s got a brain the size of a planet. I’ve heard of court of appeal judges shitting bricks, back when he was practising, if they knew he’d be appearing in front of them. And a Silk I once fell into conversation with, who knew him a little, described him to me, as a ‘semi-autistic genius’. The idea that he, whatever criticisms might reasonably be made of other senior judges, that he of all people is in the Supreme Court because his later got him pupillage, is as ridiculous as the idea that some 27 year-old no experience of life, the Bar, or anything else, should be writing op-ed pieces for … Hang about….

  22. Edward Lud:

    Astonishing. The Guardian publishes an article by a very junior lawyer demolishing this man, who I confess I had never heard of until now.

    The top Google result for Sumption is a Guardian article published one month ago which profiles him, describing him as one of the most brilliant minds in the country, along with descriptions of the many complex cases that he has won. Even the article is titled “The Brain of Britain”.

    http://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/aug/06/jonathan-sumption-brain-of-britain

    I think I know where I stand on this one. I hope Ms Proudman is investing her column earnings wisely; her legal career is going to be very short.

  23. Dear Mr Worstall

    I suspect Miss Proudman has decided against a legal career and is ensuring it remains so.

    She may also be trying to atone for her name, prior to taking up a lucrative career with SJW Inc.

    Are Kids Company looking for a new CEO on a six figure salary?

    DP

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