And the award for the finest Apple Launch coverage goes to …..September 10, 2015 Tim WorstallNewspaper Watch20 CommentsThe Register! And yes, it will be called the MaxiPad. previousSo, this civilisation is done, shut it downnextSocialism for thee not for me 20 thoughts on “And the award for the finest Apple Launch coverage goes to …..” Noel Scoper September 10, 2015 at 10:38 am Always conflicted, I like Apple products and I like ElReg. ElReg, always out tabloiding The Sun with stuff like this: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/08/whatsapp_security_flap/ But being honest, Samsung has a mega tablet. Only as result of the Apple MaxiPad rumours from a year or more ago. Does it sell any? Does it make any cash on it? Is it any good? No. Smart watches? Apple sells more in a month than ever sold on any platform before, but that’s a failure. The Samsung Watch rushed to market a the slightest sniff of an Apple Watch, sells nothing. Whatever you think of Apple, their products or their fanbois, the products appear in their own time, when ready and generate decent margin. Who gives a fuck about the market share of Xiamoi in China when you generate more profit than then whole mobile market combined. The Stigler September 10, 2015 at 11:21 am Noel Scoper, But are these products selling/going to sell? The iPad is a success as a consumption device. Flop on the sofa, read/update your facebook page or play some games. In terms of commerce, it’s fairly non-existent. To do serious stuff like designing websites, editing video, or recording follow-up actions in a call centre, you need a PC or Mac. This is too big for sitting on the sofa with, and it’s not a production device. Because it’s iOS, you can’t run Photoshop on it, Avid or Eclipse, or a browser with a developer console (whatever else you think of the Surface Pro, it’s full Windows and can do all of this). And it’s really no more portable than a laptop. They’ve stuck watch sales into “other” which suggests that they’d rather obfuscate sales, that it’s not selling very well. Johnnydub September 10, 2015 at 11:35 am The Stigler The other point is that iPad and tablet sales in general are not flattered by upgrade chasing. Most poeple with an iPad wont go out and buy the latest one cos there is one. Whereas a lot of people doing content creation are thirsty for the best processor, GFX card etc.. Maarten September 10, 2015 at 12:59 pm Surely the point is that Apple are consistently profitable with the stuff they launch, whereas everyone else (and this is a massive generalisation, I appreciate) isn’t. I don’t suppose they care in the slightest (and their pricing and marketing suggests this is true) what their market share in any segment is. Noel Scoper September 10, 2015 at 1:05 pm @Stig, I don’t disagree with you, who knows what products may or may not succeed. Is the watch a failure if it only sells 10-20K per day as some say, although at Apple margins that’s $200m a year? “Because it’s iOS, you can’t run Photoshop on it” – you might want to take a look at the keynote video then. Agreed, not for pros but Adobe obviously think it’s worth investing in. As do Microsoft. Interesting positioning with Cisco and IBM as well for the enterprise. Tim Cook really seems to be going slowly slowly catchy monkey, which Wall St doesn’t like. I just find Apple fascinating from a product point of view, people take the piss as they are late to the party with a watch or a large screen phone, but they do take their time, and know they have the time, to go out and get it right, not rush some shit to market(*) (*) charger cables excluded, which are still shit and they still don’t care! The Stigler September 10, 2015 at 1:08 pm Johnnydub, “The other point is that iPad and tablet sales in general are not flattered by upgrade chasing. Most poeple with an iPad wont go out and buy the latest one cos there is one.” And the iPad isn’t something people bring out in public much. You get none of that showing off of your new iProduct, unlike their two most successful products, the Mac and the iPhone. Steve Crook September 10, 2015 at 1:34 pm Dunno, I think the Daily Mash runs it very close. http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-technology/apple-unveils-middle-aged-man-in-jeans-20150910101823 njc September 10, 2015 at 2:20 pm I thought this was good on el reg too: “Cuffed Texan woman holsters loaded gun IN VAGINA Hidden .22 was fully loaded and had one in the chamber. Much like the suspect.” Bloke in Costa Rica September 10, 2015 at 5:28 pm Apple seems to be the only company that engenders such levels of quasi-religious fervour even among people who don’t buy its products. With a P/E of 12.9 and a market cap of $640.5 billion they are evidently doing something right. People just seem to carry too much baggage around when it comes to choice of platform. I loathe Microsoft and wish Windows would die, but that’s because I write software, and the pain of doing so in a Mac/Linux environment is so much less, not because of some innate prejudice. Dennis the Peasant September 10, 2015 at 5:47 pm “The iPad is a success as a consumption device. Flop on the sofa, read/update your facebook page or play some games. In terms of commerce, it’s fairly non-existent.” Evidently you haven’t been in a doctor’s office in the USA in a while. iPads have replaced the stethoscope as the one item every doctors has on him when he walks into an examination room. I’m also seeing them in the hands of waiters in restaurants, delivery men, and other service types who work off a dispatcher. As software and apps are developed by and for specific businesses, you’ll see more of them in the hands of workers and professionals than you will in the hands of couch potatoes. Dennis the Peasant September 10, 2015 at 5:48 pm “I loathe Microsoft and wish Windows would die, but that’s because I write software, and the pain of doing so in a Mac/Linux environment is so much less, not because of some innate prejudice.” A lot of us who are forced to use Windows loathe in as much as you do. If anyone actually sold professional grade tax software I’d ditch Windows in a heartbeat. bloke in spain September 10, 2015 at 5:53 pm No doubt Mr CR. And Apple does provide an enormous service to the community. Every time I get an e-mail & it’s got “sent from my iWhatever” under it I am informed a) That they don’t know how to turn the function off or b) They think letting everyone know they’ve got bling is status raising. So I act accordingly. For amusement: Had the pleasure of informing an iPhone user, if he hangs round particular locations repeatedly & for very long, the GPS will file the co-ords under “My favourite places”. Accessible to anyone knows how to. White faced & shaking would be the best description. Paul Nottingham September 10, 2015 at 8:28 pm I’ve hated Apple products for years and will continue to do so. What I cannot stand is the hype. People who are usually rational lose all sense when they are told that a particular product is Apple and are willing to spend far more than they need to obtain an often mediocre product with the right logo emblazoned on it. I won’t even download from iTunes. As far as I’m concerned the sooner people learn to buy products because they are the best value rather than trying to impress the gullible, the better. Bloke in Costa Rica September 10, 2015 at 9:26 pm Define best value. Include TCO. Show your workings. Paul Nottingham September 10, 2015 at 10:57 pm I don’t have to define it, it’s the best combination of a product which meets the desired characteristics and the price, but that’s more of a generalisation. Apple products may do the job as well as some of its competitors but its products are hugely overpriced. It’s a company subsidised by stupidity. Edward M. Grant September 11, 2015 at 5:15 am Apple products may do the job as well as some of its competitors but its products are hugely overpriced. It’s a company subsidised by stupidity. I bought a new Android tablet about eighteen months ago, after the manufacturer stopped supporting my old one. This time, I got a Nexus, assuming Google would at least support their own devices. Google are now making it obsolete, by not releasing any more OS upgrades for it. I bought an iPad for my girlfriend shortly after I bought the Android tablet, and it was an old iPad model on sale at the time, which had been in the stores for over a year. It’s still supported, and likely will be until it’s physically unable to run the OS. I have an Android phone that my employer bought me this year. It still doesn’t have the lastest Android release, and may never do. I don’t even know which of the recent security holes it’s vulnerable to, or whether they’ll ever be patched, since the manufacturer has to port Google’s code, then release it to the carrier, who send it to me. Needless to say, I just bought an iPad to replace the Android tablet. It cost more than twice as much (though part of that is because it has 4x the flash storage), but, if past experience is anything to go by, I’ll replace it less than half as often. I also don’t have to worry about every little app trying to spy on all my stuff, since the iPad has actual, usable, permission controls. Nor do I have to wait a random time for security fixes to reach me via the tablet OEM, since Apple push them out to everyone. Noel Scoper September 11, 2015 at 5:22 am Meanwhile, ElReg does the headlines again…. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/10/uber_edd_ruling/ BigFire September 11, 2015 at 6:43 am Three words: Reality Distortion Field. When Steve Job was alive it was in full force and effect. Now that he’s stupidly not treat his treatable cancer, it has lessened. The fact that the products they’re turning out is getting worse may also dimmed the effect. Edward M. Grant September 11, 2015 at 6:56 am The fact that the products they’re turning out is getting worse may also dimmed the effect. The only recent product I’m aware of that’s been worse is the ‘toss in a fingerprint reader and add $100 to the price’ iPad Mini 3. That smack in the face is why I ended up buying a (pre-MaxiPad) full-sized iPad, rather than one closer in size to the Android tablet it replaced. I notice that Apple are retiring the Mini 3 this year, and keeping the previous generation on sale… that seems a tacit admission that they screwed up. I’d say the bigger problem is that the new products are mundane. A bigger/smaller/faster iPad doesn’t have anything like the buzz the first one had, when it was way ahead of the competition. Bloke in Costa Rica September 11, 2015 at 7:11 pm It’s a myth that Apple gear is overpriced. For example, my Mac mini has a quad core i7 (8 threads), 16 GB of RAM, 1 1TB hard drive, dual HD monitor support, 802.11n, Firewire and USB 3. When I got it three years ago, the equivalent set of parts for a PC would have been a $400 CPU, $150 of RAM, $150 for the hard drive. a $100 motherboard, $150 for the graphics card, case, power supply etc. About $1100 worth. I paid…wait for it…$1100. I will still probably be using it in three years’ time. And Macbooks are not directly comparable to some POS Lenovo entry-level thing, but the high-end offerings from Asus etc. which cost almost exactly the same. Retina displays are not cheap no matter what the manufacturer. And they last forever. The Mac pros can drive 3 5K monitors directly. You need a $3000 video card to do that on a PC. It’s largely moot anyway. A very significant fraction of software engineers like me use Macs because you get the combo of Unix underneath with a beautiful desktop OS on top and build quality that makes PCs look sad. I can run the same dev platform (e.g. Node+Redis+Lua+nginx) pretty much out of the box on Mac and Linux with no fighting the machine. Hardware cost is largely immaterial. TCO is all that matters, and in this case it goes Mac < Linux ≪ Windows. Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. 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