So, the implications of the latest research into prostitution

We investigated attitudes and behaviors associated with prostitution and sexual
aggression among 101 men who buy sex and 101 age-, education-, and ethnicity-matched
men who did not buy sex. Both groups tended to accept rape myths, be aware of harms of
prostitution and trafficking, express ambivalence about the nature of prostitution, and
believe that jail time and public exposure are the most effective deterrents to buying sex.
Sex buyers were more likely than men who did not buy sex to report sexual aggression
and likelihood to rape. Men who bought sex scored higher on measures of impersonal sex
and hostile masculinity and had less empathy for prostituted women, viewing them as
intrinsically different from other women. When compared with non-sex-buyers, these
sefindings indicate that men who buy sex share certain key characteristics with men at
risk for committing sexual aggression as documented by research based on the leading
scientific model of the characteristics of non-criminal sexually aggressive men, the
Confluence Model of sexual aggression.

Comparing Sex Buyers with Men Who Do Not Buy Sex:
New Data on Prostitution and Trafficking
Researchers of prostitution have been largely polarized into two camps based on
whether they understand prostitution to be primarily sexual labor (Jenness, 1990; Leigh,
1997; Milrod & Weitzer, 2012) or primarily sexual abuse (Deer, 2010; Dworkin, 2000;
Leidholdt, 1993). Differences in perspective can be discerned in differing perceptions of
power relations, for example, whether or not payment for sex acts in a context of poverty,
sexism, and racism constitutes empowerment/agency or exploitation/abuse. The present
study offers data relevant to these disparate models by investigating the characteristics of
men who buy sex.
Although most research on prostitution – perhaps as much as 99% (Perkins, 1991)
– focuses on women who sell/are sold as sex, men who buy sex are increasingly
recognized as drivers of the sex trafficking1
industry (Anderson & O’Connell-Davidson,
2003; Di Nicola, Cuaduro, Lombardi, & Ruspini, 2009; Shively, Kliorys, Wheeler, &
Hunt, 2012). We examined whether men who buy sex differ from men who do not buy
sex on some of the same factors as those distinguishing men at higher risk for sexual
aggression from those at lower risk for such aggression. We assumed that work is not
abuse from the client’s standpoint and that the client would not be motivated by
aggression toward the service provider. Is a sex buyer’s use of a woman in prostitution
motivated by the same dynamics that lead a person with resources to seek a service
provider to clean their house or shine their shoes, or is the use of a woman in prostitution
more akin to the dynamics seen in perpetrators of sexual violence? If parallels to the
latter are found, this would more systematically address the question of whether sexual
aggression and prostitution may have some common origins, such as a cultural climate
that may breed an ideology that supports treating women as objects to be used in ways
that differ from egalitarian social interactions. If buyers of sex, compared to those who do
not buy sex, score higher on attitudes and behaviors of sexual aggression, given that
prostitution is also a sexual practice, that result would empirically suggest that, for the
consumer population, prostitution is a practice that is consistent with those attitudes and
behaviors, making it more similar to a practice of sexual aggression than to the purchase
of other services.

We investigated sex buyers’ sexual aggression because that is how prostitution is
frequently described by those who have been in it and have exited: as an act of sexual
aggression (Abramovich, 2005; Farley et al., 2003; Miller & Schwartz, 1995; Silbert &
Pines, 1982, 1983). The question of whether prostitution is more like a job or whether it
is more like abuse/sexual aggression is an important question on a societal level as well
because it leads to very different policies. If prostitution is understood primarily as labor,
then it needs to be legalized and regulated (as in the Netherlands, Germany, and
Australia). If prostitution is understood primarily as abuse/sexual aggression, it needs to
be abolished (as in Sweden, Norway, and Iceland).

Hmm.

Can’t say that I’m convinced.

We seem to be back to that same question we have about child and adult pornography. Are they complements to the activity or substitutes? With pornography the answer is well known: substitutes. Someone wanking themselves into a stupor over pictures doesn’t go out and do the deed itself. Thus the reduction in child abuse where child pornography has been legal and the general decline in sexual violence in recent decades as the internet rolls out.

The conclusion of this paper (given its source, not a surprising one) is that prostitution and sexual violence are substitutes, therefore we must ban prostitution. But that’s to get the logic wrong, entirely arse over tit. What do we think is worse, sexual violence or prostitution? Volunteers or not-volunteers?

Quite: if the demand for prostitution does indeed come from those same urges to sexual violence then that’s the proof that we require that prostitution should be legal. Because we would far prefer that those urges work themselves out with prostitutes than with violent attacks, yes?

21 thoughts on “So, the implications of the latest research into prostitution”

  1. We investigated attitudes and behaviors associated with prostitution and cake lovers among 101 men who buy sex and 101 age-, education-, and ethnicity-matched men who did not buy sex…. When compared with non-sex-buyers, these findings indicate that men who buy sex share certain key characteristics with men at risk for consuming cake or cake-derived products.

    Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

  2. Not a very diverse author list, I must say. Something should be done about it.

    Anyhoo, how much of this stuff is yer actual facts and how much self-reported tommyrot?

    I particularly enjoyed “Both groups tended to accept rape myths”. Does that mean those bastard men won’t accept the political indoctrination to which we, the authors, have subjected ourselves?

  3. If both groups accepted rape myths then all men accept rape myths. And as they are myths (fact) then all men, ALL MEN must be misinformed.
    That reads just a little counter-intuitive.

  4. There’s a few working girls that do a “little girl” fetish thing. Basically, for dudes that would like to have sex with little girls. Sick, but, better they’re shagging a petite, flat-chested 19 year old putting on an act and getting well paid than raping little kids.

  5. Sex buyers were more likely than men who did not buy sex to report sexual aggression
    and likelihood to rape.

    So they asked guys “are you likely to rape” and some men said “Aye, I suppose I am”?

    What a pile of bollocks.

  6. It is leftist shite. That starts from the conclusion that all men are wicked rapists and works (I won’t dignify the crap by saying “reasons”) backwards. Whoever funded these scummy so-called “researchers” needs to be put out of business. That will put a stop to the bullshit research.

    Men go to prossies because said men want sex. The may not have a partner or may not want one as that often equals your entire life being taken over.

    They may have an unusual desire that the wife etc won’t satisfy. By no means is that always because the desire is something vile. The number of men with truly sick desires is very small whatever hate-filled fantasies the femmi-freakshow tries to spread.

    Having sex with a willing women is not sexual violence. The willingness of all women comes from being paid in some manner. By emotional gratification if not by cash. Or a new Magnet kitchen. In amongst all the endless slagging of men lets not delude ourselves about the nature of women.

  7. Consider this sentence:

    Men who buy sex share certain key characteristics with men at risk for committing sexual aggression.

    Therefore prostitution should be legal, per the substitution argument.

    Now consider this sentence:

    Men who smoke e-cigarettes share certain key characteristics with men at risk for using cigarettes.

    Therefore e-cigarettes should be legal, again per the substitution argument.

    Our intellectual classes are full of people who can’t see this logic.

  8. Is a sex buyer’s use of a woman in prostitution
    motivated by the same dynamics that lead a person with resources to seek a service provider to clean their house or shine their shoes, or is the use of a woman in prostitution more akin to the dynamics seen in perpetrators of sexual violence?

    Phallacy (deliberate) of the excluded middle.

    I’ll accept, for the sake of the argument, that sex is qualitatively different to cleaning houses or shoes, but so are many other things – non-intimate massage, many medical services, caring services for the infirm or incapable etc.

    Perhaps men visit prostitutes because they want either just sex or a type of sex that isn’t easily available, to _them_, from non-commercial sources?

  9. If prostitution is understood primarily as labor,
    then it needs to be legalized and regulated (as in the Netherlands, Germany, and
    Australia). If prostitution is understood primarily as abuse/sexual aggression, it needs to
    be abolished (as in Sweden, Norway, and Iceland).

    So… you can’t buy a handjob in the Nordics?

    Right.

    Prostitution is like drugs and booze: it can’t be abolished, merely prohibited. And we know what the bleak unintended consequences of prohibition are.

    So this toxic masculinity stuff is irrelevant.

  10. The thing is this had nothing to do with protecting women, otherwise anyone with half a brain would see that the prostitutes themselves are the ones most deserving and requiring of protection.

    What this is about is feminists trying to control men, and sex is one of their weapons. Prostitution gives men alternatives that the feminists don’t like hence whatever the question, prohibition is the answer.

  11. So Much For Subtlety

    Johnnydub – “Prostitution gives men alternatives that the feminists don’t like hence whatever the question, prohibition is the answer.”

    I think that is true of old school feminists but I also think these new ones are on to something different. They don’t want to control men. They want to ban them. As with Julie Bindel calling for all men to be placed in concentration camps recently. They are not calling for husbands to be under the thumb of their wives. They want the wives to be lesbians and foreswear men altogether.

    So they need to portray all heterosexual sex as rape. This is just the thin edge of the wedge. If they can convince people paying for sex is rape, they are half way getting most women to accept all sex is rape.

  12. “So… you can’t buy a handjob in the Nordics?”

    The thing with what’s happened in the nordics is that it’s about the illusion of government success. Few politicians really give a crap. You change the law, and then you write a report that has to show that it works. It’s like all the utter rot that was written about the positive effects of the smoking ban. If the report authors had written a report from an open perspective, they’d have got a P45. See also: cost/benefit analysis reports for projects that the boss has already decided he wants to do.

    So, they do things like measuring street prostitution, compared to a decade ago and then say “look, we’ve reduced prostutition”. Well, no. street prostitution disappeared everywhere after cellphones and the internet came along because that’s more efficient.

    It’s all still going on. Selling is legal, so the girls are still advertising. Escort agencies exist, although many are situated outside the country (like that matters with t’internet). Almost no-one gets busted, except in high publicity raids to convince the dummies that the government is doing something, and when they do, it’s a fine equivalent to 2 month’s salary, hardly a huge disincentive.

  13. Thing about these “reports” on anything to do with prostitution is not the conclusions drawn from them, but the data.
    Look, we had a couple of data inputs in the last thread.
    An anon, maybe the same anon as the one commenting above, claiming he perused hooker contact forums, but didn’t. Yeah. Right, anon. Then the information there were students appearing on said forum, selling their services. Oh boy!
    There’s two things we can be absolutely certain about. There are no students posting ads on contact sites, saying they are students. Because students posting on contact sites don’t want people to suspect they’re students. And that any woman posting as a 20 y/o student on a contact site is as likely to be a grandmother with a really low wattage bulb installed.
    Because the one bit of data we can be sure of about the industry, is everybody’s lying. The whole industry’s built on the two primal lies. She tells you that she wants to have sex with you. You tell yourself you believe her.
    So what ever data you get, it’s all bollocks.

  14. She tells herself she wants the money–Truth
    You tell yourself you want the sex–also Truth

    What lies?

    Of course lots of people have negative attitudes acquired or installed by life, upbringing etc. And may try to con themselves. But it is not essential let alone primal.

  15. The above said, I’ll give you a single data point.
    Couple weeks ago, about 3am, I was walking home through the dark narrow streets of the city. Walking in front of me, on her own, was a lass in her 20s wearing what lassies in Malaga wear in August. Next to nothing. And being she was on high heels & I was in a hurry, I caught up & passed her. And we exchanged a smile & a buena. Because we live city where 20 y/o’s in micro skirts can walk home on their own, without much concern..
    I’d say that’s not totally unrelated to; if one really wanted to get one’s ashes hauled in 3am Malaga City you stroll along over to the other side of the Alameda Principale & visit one of the establishments specialises in the hauling of ashes. Where you’ll be enthusiastically welcomed.

  16. Wonder if running this study in a country where prostitution is legal would produce same results as in one where it is illegal.
    Surely the issue of legality and openness has some bias on the attitudes of those involved.

  17. @Mr Ecks
    “She tells herself she wants the money–Truth
    You tell yourself you want the sex–also Truth”

    If that’s what was being bought, indeed.
    But the market being traded in is illusions.

    Bit like the purchase of an expensive, fast car is a sure fire way to increase the length & thickness of the male organ.

  18. My old granny, who was a married woman when Victoria was still on the throne, always expressed the greatest respect for working girls because she believed it was prostitutes who made the streets safe for respectable women to walk…

  19. Isn’t it said that men don’t pay women just to have sex, they pay them so they’ll go away again afterwards ?

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