Firstly, sentence of beheading and crucifixion in Saudi Arabia:
A young man facing beheading and crucifixion was tortured and sentenced for political reasons, according to rights groups and a source close to his family calling for a halt to his execution.
Ali Mohammed al-Nimr was arrested in 2012 when he was 17 years old for participating in a protest. He was later sentenced to death for joining a criminal group and attacking police forces in proceedings which a United Nations body said “fell short of international standards.”
The conviction was upheld this week by Saudi Arabia’s highest court, and the execution could take place at any time.
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The crucifixion sentence means that al-Nimr will most likely be beheaded first and his body later displayed on a cross in a public location, according to campaigners.The fear that al-Nimr could be executed at any time has taken a steep toll on his father and other relatives, a source close to the family told NBC News.
They are “acting like they are okay, but I know the family and they are not,” the source said, adding that Ali was defiantly “dreaming about the future” and was still hoping to study psychology one day.
A group of United Nations experts on torture and capital punishment urged Saudi Arabia to halt the execution, saying that al-Nimr was a child at the time of his offense and that the proceedings against him were flawed.
“Any judgment imposing the death penalty upon persons who were children at the time of the offence and their execution, are incompatible with Saudi Arabia’s international obligations,” they said in a statement, citing Saudi Arabia’s ratification of the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
Bit medieval really. And the second story about Saudi Arabia:
U.S. ‘Welcomes’ Saudi Arabia as Head of UN Human Rights Council
Hmmm
“U.S. ‘Welcomes’ Saudi Arabia as Head of UN Human Rights Council”
Yes, because it’s their turn, you see. That’s the way UN works. Everyone takes turns. As we all did in pre-school.
This method leads to world peace, universal understanding, respect for all cultures and harmony among all peoples.
UN pretends to believe all that’s true, and other nations including the US pretend to agree.
If you don’t believe it too, just look around at the harmonious world we live in today.
Ali Mohammed al-Nimr was arrested in 2012 when he was 17 years old for participating in a protest. He was later sentenced to death for joining a criminal group and attacking police forces in proceedings which a United Nations body said “fell short of international standards.”
So he is being executed for rebellion. Given the crucifiction thing. Which probably means ISIS.
Naturally proceedings fell short of international standards. Everything does these days but certainly Islamic trials do. Let me be the first to accuse them of Islamophobia for not embracing the different ways in which the many vibrant and diverse communities in the world express their views of right and wrong. They should realise that all cultures are of equal value and we should welcome the Saudis to their proper and rightful role on the UN Human Rights Committee.
“So he is being executed for rebellion. Given the crucifiction thing. Which probably means ISIS.”
But smfs, would you trust a Saudi court to come to a determination on this matter even if you didn’t find the punishment abhorrent?
Following the magnificent example of their predecessors Sudan, no doubt. It won’t stop all the SJW’s telling us that we need to follow the UN’s lead. Something about internationalism and not being Western, I suspect.
MyBurningEars – “But smfs, would you trust a Saudi court to come to a determination on this matter even if you didn’t find the punishment abhorrent?”
Depends if he is a Shia or not. If he is, it probably isn’t ISIS. On the whole.
I don’t think that torture produces worse out comes if that is what you mean.
Let me just clarify what might be an ambiguous statement in that previous post. “Worse outcomes” covers a lot of ground. I mean courts that use torture are probably no worse at finding the guilty party. They might be better.
Whatever you think of torture.
As can be seen by the fact that there is very little mugging in Saudi Arabia, as there was little in London when the Plod could verbal and beat prisoners to their heart’s content. Now I cannot walk through large parts of London after dusk. But I am sure everyone’s human rights are fully protected.
Cultural enrichment is most likely the source of your perambulatory woes SMFS.
Getting out of the way while people fight back would settle the hash of crime without allowing costumed thugs to get too full of themselves.
Saudi needs to be shut down and the royals over there put out of business along with the wahabis. How to do it without another giant mess I don’t know. We could start by confiscating every Saudi penny in grabbing distance. How much cash might the Saudis have in our banks etc? Confiscating that might cause them a lot of well-deserved difficulties.It would certainly damage their ability to finance Islamic troubles.
Seems like every time we put someone out of business over there, whoever replaces them is even worse. How ’bout letting the Muslims have their quaint little criminal justice traditions but not inviting them over here?
JC: As far as the Saudis go that isn’t possible. Their mountains of cash power vast amounts of dirty work. We should have left the rest of them alone and smashed Saudi Arabia.
The world is paying a bloody high price for the Yanks’ Faustian Pact.
Come, come, people. Saudi Arabia is a highly cultured place, where police and public alike follow the highest standards of civilised behaviour.
Interesting PR dilemma for the House of Saud
Show some mercy to celebrate Eid, or
Crucify the guy to distract attention from their catastrophic crowd management.
Well, I think it’s a dilemma. They won’t pause for thought.
I have no problem condemning the Saudi government, and western pandering to it. But the second story is plain wrong. The current president of the UN Human Rights Council is Joachim Rücker, from Germany.
What this story ought to say is that an ambassador from Saudi Arabia is a member of the UNHCR Consultative Group: membership includes a turn in the chair, which has come round for the group’s current (two-week) session.