You don’t say, eh?

Abuse going unreported in Britain’s south Asian communities – study

Research project finds lack of awareness about what constitutes criminal behaviour endemic among first generation families

No doubt some will castigate me for waacism here but I’m afraid not: this is culturalism. Yes, some cultures are better than others.

Rapists and abusers are escaping justice in Britain’s south Asian communities as sexual and domestic violence is going unreported by women and children who are trapped in a pervasive culture of shame, according to a new academic study.

The research project, carried out across several counties in England and Wales, has found that a lack of awareness about what constitutes criminal behaviour is endemic among first generation immigrant families from Pakistan, Bangladesh and India.

I think we’ll find, upon closer examination, that it’s certain cultures within those groups rather than all of the groups themselves. Just as within third and fourth generation, or longer, Britons, we’ll find certain behaviours concentrated in certain cultural groupings.

22 thoughts on “You don’t say, eh?”

  1. So Much For Subtlety

    Rapists and abusers are escaping justice in Britain’s south Asian communities as sexual and domestic violence is going unreported by women and children

    You don’t say. You don’t say. In fairness I expect this is a question of degree rather than type. I would guess quite a few indigenous Britons (as racist as some find that term) do not entirely agree with the legal definitions foisted on the community by Social Justice Warriors. Quite a bit of what is technically marital rape is probably ignored by all British communities for instance.

  2. “I think we’ll find, upon closer examination, that it’s certain cultures within those groups rather than all of the groups themselves. Just as within third and fourth generation, or longer, Britons, we’ll find certain behaviours concentrated in certain cultural groupings.”

    I remember reading an analysis of one of the recent ‘Asian’ sexual abuse rings by somebody who had warned of it long before, and they said that near all the perpetrators came from a group of immigrants from 3 Pakistani villages who were still very much a cohesive unit.

  3. I’d say, Doug, that it’s important to differentiate between how these communities interact with the wider society & their behaviour within their own communities. They’re entirely different things.

  4. lack of awareness about what constitutes criminal behaviour endemic among first generation families

    To be fair, it’s an easy mistake to make.

    “What’s that you say? Raping a 12 year old is illegal in the UK? Oops!”

  5. @ Rob. That’s nice and appreciated, but India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are not “South Asia”. Further south are Burma, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia.

    Naming the names will offend the professional offendees. Smearing Singaporeans with Bangladeshis is about as culturally and geographically accurate as confusing Libyans with Finns.

    Still, they’re all Asians, and they all look the same 🙂

  6. “Some of the charities and progressive mosques are getting the message out there but there is a lot of work to be done in raising awareness for these silent victims.”

    Why does the cynic in me thing ‘a lot of work’ translates into ‘a lot of research money’..?

  7. Rapists and abusers are escaping justice in Britain’s south Asian communities as sexual and domestic violence is going unreported by women and children who are trapped in a pervasive culture of shame, according to a new academic study.

    Notice what they do not say – that these rapists and child abusers are also going free because the Guardian has led a thirty year campaign to smear anyone who speaks out about criminal practices in the community towards women.

    We even jailed Nick Griffin for speaking what turned out to be the truth.

  8. People allegedly wanted multiculturalism and now they’ve got it. Shoulda voted for different political parties. Or even founded them.

  9. True dearieme.
    ‘Course they’ve had the opportunity for years. But if one even mentioned that party here, there’d be the usual flurries from the usual suspects condemning it without the slightest reference to its actual policies. On much the same basis as its leader was in court on trumped up charges.
    We’re in an area where the multiculti fascists hold sway.

  10. dearieme,

    “People allegedly wanted multiculturalism and now they’ve got it.”

    To be fair, no-one was asked. No politician said they were going to bring over huge numbers of immigrants, large sections of the media were pro, and any antis knew they’d get shot down if they questioned it as racists.

    We’ve had MigrationWatch doggedly producing statistics (and being shot down as racists) and (I forget his name) the non-white senior police officer in Rochdale who didn’t tolerate the multiculti perspective of this being different and OK, but that these people were breaking serious laws.

    My sikh mate really objects to the term “Asian” because he despises Pakistanis.

  11. Doug: near all the perpetrators came from a group of immigrants from 3 Pakistani villages who were still very much a cohesive unit.
    I thinks that’s just someone making smoke – if you scale the Rotherham numbers to the (alleged) 22 other cities affected, and model the rapists’ beaviours, there are between 50,000 and 150,000 perps out there. More than 3 villages, methinks.

  12. The Stigler,

    So your Sikh mate is part of an overwhelming global majority, even most Pakistanis despise other Pakistanis.

  13. I am an unabashed culturalist. This is why the current hordes of colonists beating on the doors of Europe need to be turned back. If we want to continue to enjoy the fruits of a free and tolerant society then we cannot allow the wholesale importation of millions of people who are deeply inimical to that society. The onus is not on the First World to act as a safety valve when all the filthy pathologies of the Middle East and Africa reach boiling point. I really don’t care who you are or what you look like. All I care is how you act.

  14. “Why does the cynic in me thing ‘a lot of work’ translates into ‘a lot of research money’..?”

    JuliaM: not so much research — as the task is “raising awareness” — but certainly 100s of ‘outreach coordinators’ and other non-jobs.

  15. “3 Pakistani villages who were still very much a cohesive unit.”

    One really under-reported aspect of the Rotherham abuse scandal was that the Deputy Leader of the Council who resigned in shame still shouting “its all racism” was best mates from his Pakistani village days with the Police Inspector is South Yorkshire responsible for tackling Child Sexual Exploitation, a certain Inspectyor Abdul Aziz.

    I’m sure the IPCC would like a chat with Mr Aziz but unfortunately he fledf to Pakistan.

    This is what we’re up against. Its hard to tell who is more responsible – the perps or the establishment. After all logic dictates its the perps, but you know the establishment facilitated it. I just don’t understand the endgame. Is it simply to demoralise the locals to the point of abject surrender?

  16. The endgame? I’m not sure they thought that far. Who does? They went as far as they were allowed. They pushed, found no resistance, pushed further and further.

  17. It is quite simple – these refugees/ immigrants want ‘living space’. When Adolf wanted it we fought him.
    You haven’t so enjoy.

  18. DocBud, in any artificial construct like a state there will be people who accept those like themselves and dislike those who are different. State boundaries does not make the people in one town like the people in another.
    Here we have north/south; rich/poor; taxpayers/benefit claimants; English/Scottish etc.

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