Feminist slogan T-shirts – why are they impossible to get right?October 8, 2015 Tim WorstallFeminism20 CommentsUmm, summat about how difficult it is to get someone to read the bumpy bits without staring at the bumpy bits maybe Zoe? previousIsn’t the Tory Party gender balanced these days?nextMy word! 20 thoughts on “Feminist slogan T-shirts – why are they impossible to get right?” bloke in spain October 8, 2015 at 9:42 am Somewhat amusing, this. There was a T-shirt – well crop-top actually- on some extreme bumpy bits, that seemed to be saying something interesting, recently. Problem being, to read the whole required the eyeline below the level of the bumpy bits to scan the lower slopes. And that, despite the message being in English, the wearer had none of the language*. Nor any other I can attempt. Sign language for “I’m only trying to read your tits” isn’t the easiest. *Which was possibly why she was wearing it & why I was attempting to read it. Whoever designed the garment, not seeming to have much a grasp of the nuances of the English language. Steve October 8, 2015 at 9:54 am With sloganeering generally, context matters; with feminist sloganeering, in particular, context definitely matters, especially when that context is a T-shirt. Meryl Streep’s shirtwear has been the latest to combust. It read: “I’d rather be a rebel than a slave”, a quote from a speech in 1913 by Emmeline Pankhurst. Carey Mulligan, Romola Garai and Anne-Marie Duff were also wearing it, promoting their film Suffragette, but that defence – “Look over there, they did it, too” – doesn’t cut much ice when you’re Meryl. Or indeed, anyone else older than seven. T-shirts generally don’t look flattering on adults. Remember Ed Miliband’s feminist t-shirt? I’m ambivalent about whether or not this was an insult to the memory of the historical victims of slavery, which is what ignited the row. Social Justice means privileged white feminists get screamed at by privileged black academics and journalists over who was more oppressed in bygone centuries. Bring your own popcorn. Plainly, to cite the condition of being enslaved as the ultimate human debasement, when the debasement resides in the act of enslaving another, is egregious. But that’s an act of revision: slavery as refracted through Pankhurst’s cultural reference set was a metaphor for the removal of agency and dignity Well, Pankhurst was talking shite, wasn’t she? Voting does not confer agency and dignity. Our century-old experiment in mass democracy has tended to prove the opposite: the bigger the franchise, the bigger the State, and the less agency we all have. In the bad old days of 1915, most Britons couldn’t vote. Most Britons also paid little or no taxes of any kind. Most Britons also enjoyed living in one of the richest and freest countries then in existence. There was no army of government health fascists to police your dietary choices. You were free to start a business without having to navigate a maelstrom of constantly shifting rules and regulations. And you could more or less say or publish whatever you damn well pleased, so long as it wasn’t seditious, libel, or incitement to crime. We were a freer society in 1915. And nobody wore T-shirts. Dongguan John October 8, 2015 at 10:08 am Once saw a factory girl in China, about 18 y/o, sweet looking, wearing a t-shirt on which, written in English, was: ‘My dick wants to buy you a drink’… I was laughing so hard. Wonder what the feminazis would think about that? So Much For Subtlety October 8, 2015 at 10:17 am It is so hard to get right because feminists are humourless prigs always on the look out for offense so they can go on a self righteous rant. Anyone who gives a damn about Streep’s T-shirt needs their head read. The Stigler October 8, 2015 at 10:37 am I’m sure it’s partly about being a bloke, but feminism has to be one of the most boring political subjects. You’ve got the vote, you’ve got education, you’ve got laws about equal pay. What the fuck are you complaining about still? Rob October 8, 2015 at 10:48 am T-shirts with slogans on. Shit whatever the age of the wearer, but for 60 year olds, completely risible. A more suitable Pankhurst sentiment would have been “Go and bayonet the Hun, you coward” but that might have cracked the halo a bit so must be buried. Rob October 8, 2015 at 10:51 am Stigler: As with any SJW campaign it can never be allowed to end, but must carry on ad finitum into ever more trivial areas as the barrel gets scraped. And this is assuming that ‘equality’ is the goal. If supremacy is in fact the end state, then there really is no limit. The Stigler October 8, 2015 at 11:10 am Rob, “T-shirts with slogans on. Shit whatever the age of the wearer, but for 60 year olds, completely risible.” I do like “The Guardian: Wrong about Everything”. That said, it’ll be in cinemascope at my age. bloke in spain October 8, 2015 at 11:40 am “T-shirts with slogans on. Shit whatever the age of the wearer, but for 60 year olds, completely risible.” Oh, I dunno. I rather like my skeleton dressed up in rave gear with the caption “It’s never too late to party” Suits me. Mr Ecks October 8, 2015 at 11:57 am Will Streep by wearing a T(wat)-shirt saying “I hand out white feathers to 15 year-old boys”? As her heroine Pankhurst encouraged her middle-class safe-at-home girlies to do? Mr Ecks October 8, 2015 at 12:04 pm Stigler:”I’m sure it’s partly about being a bloke, but feminism has to be one of the most boring political subjects. You’ve got the vote, you’ve got education, you’ve got laws about equal pay. What the fuck are you complaining about still?” Feminism is the branch of Marxism charged with undermining relations between men and women( fraught at the best of times already). Destroy the family and you destroy the basis of boojwar society. That is the reason for it. They have had some success –tho’ the welfare state has done more. But their evil struggle has only scratched the surface so far. Ian Reid October 8, 2015 at 4:16 pm All the fashion in France at the moment seems to be t-shirts with ironic English slogans that don’t quite make sense, I myself picked up a nifty little number with the slogan “live the beach you love”. Back to the matter in hand this is just victimhood top trumps being played out in public, all that’s missing is something, no matter how tenuous, that could be linked to Islamophobia. Bloke in Costa Rica October 8, 2015 at 4:23 pm I like my t-shirt that says “I know violence isn’t the answer. I got it wrong on purpose”. Also, “I ♣ BABY SEALS”. Theophrastus October 8, 2015 at 4:43 pm There’s a good line in ‘The Thick Of It’ where a minister wonders why the public wears “fucking awful clothing with writing on it” (I quote from memory). My view exactly. OK for a laugh, but generally naff. Tractor Gent October 8, 2015 at 5:28 pm My favourite T-shirt came from France. It had a slightly modified HP logo & the slogan ‘Hors Service’. bloke in spain October 8, 2015 at 8:26 pm “why the public wears “fucking awful clothing with writing on it” Virtue signalling. Although “I ♣ BABY SEALS” would indicate there’s different values of virtue. But it’s got to be an improvement on the old school tie or the 150 quid Hermes. Or wearing somebody famous’s* football kit in Tescos. *For a very low value of famous, hereabouts. Chester Draws October 8, 2015 at 9:08 pm As Bloke in Spain says, when I voluntarily put on a tie and shirt to go to work I’m signalling my virtue. Just a rather different sort of virtue. I like it when gits advertise that they are gits. Slogan T-shirts help do that immensely. As do tattoos. JeremyT October 8, 2015 at 9:25 pm Nuke the Wales is good. john77 October 8, 2015 at 10:02 pm @ Rob Some T-shirts are advertising “XXX (joggers) Run for Fun” is popular. Not my personal creed but when a couple of my well-over-70 friends wear them it is admirable rather than risible. I know a couple of lads (not quite) half my age who can walk faster than that couple can run but I am utterely certain that they would agree Bloke not in Cymru October 9, 2015 at 12:03 am My daughter has “forget Namaste just give me my coffee” and “nama-stay in bed” Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.