Why do about 15 people think you are the Messiah Tim?
Mr Ecks
Oldgreensocialist: You win stupid leftist question of the decade. The prize is a lifetime supply of Venezuelan luxury toilet paper.
PF
togf – What on earth has Tim got to do with it. He’s just the absent landlord who chucks some fresh* scraps in once a day…
* if we’re lucky
sackcloth and ashes
‘Why do about 15 people think you are the Messiah Tim?’
He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy.
Runcie Balspune
The simple answer is his age.
Worth pushing an ideology scraped up from the dustbin of history because he’s not likely to get in and you’ll never have to justify your grand and inevitable failure. If on the off-chance he does win then he’ll only last one term and not have enough time to really f*ck things up, again you’ll not have to pay the consequence.
Despite undergoing the monumental effort of climbing Mount Abbot in his youth, it wont prepare for an election campaign when you’re not far off 80. He’s a one-term duck so you may as well go for broke.
Salamander
@Runcie
How does Mount Abbot compare to the north face of the Eiger? Or K2?
@abacab – just make sure that they don’t sing, under any circumstances. Bloody awful language for music.
Theophrastus
“How does Mount Abbot compare to the north face of the Eiger?”
Devoid of natural beauty, Mount Abbott is darker, warmer but more slippery.
diogenes
Bloody deep crevasses as well
diogenes
The interesting thing is that Corbyn can only be a stop gap unless the PLP adopts the geronto – socialist style of USSR and China
bloke in spain
They don’t have to be as thick as pigshit?
If you don’t have a lot invested in the status quo, Corbyn looks an entirely reasonable alternative.
Compared with the current incumbents, almost anything’s a reasonable alternative.
diogenes
It’s just a protest vote. He has given very few indications of how he will lead his party, other than by show trials.
Matthew L
Maybe they’re looking at the other candidates for running Labour. Corbyn, the vote of despair.
Ironman
Poor Jeremy, he didn’t realise Mount Diane was a name; not an instruction from the local soviet.
Bloke no Longer in Austruia
Considering that most of my teachers and lecturers from the ’80s would be Corbynites, I reckon that extrapolating across the rest of the ejikashun and local government sectors, 20% ought to be a doddle.
Bloke with a Boat
What % of the electorate work directly for the State?
If 20% the he really is fucking up.
Bloke with a Boat
iPhone fail.
If 20% then he’s really fucked up.
Bloke with a Boat
Ok I give up for now
sackcloth and ashes
‘Poor Jeremy, he didn’t realise Mount Diane was a name; not an instruction from the local soviet’.
I am so glad I wasn’t drinking anything when I read that.
Jim
More to the point a not insignificant % of the population get their kicks from having power over other people and ordering them around. Scratch any hard line socialist and you’ll find someone who would happily patrol the ‘re-education’ camp fences with a machine gun, and shoot those trying to escape. Most have aspirations further up the blood stained socialist power ladder of course, but any position of power will do them. Its what gets them off.
Dongguan John
20% is about 1/2 a standard deviation in normal distribution which is apparently 15 on an IQ bell curve. So that’s 20% of population with an IQ less than 92.5. Is an IQ of 92 pigshit thick?
KJ
Funny, I would’ve thought the core tory vote was a little higher than 20%
KJ
Far be it from me but perhaps the grown ups see that Corbyn does grown up politics as opposed to the sneering grandstanding petty point-scoring bullshit of Cameron.
BraveFart
According to folklore, actor James Woods has an IQ of 180.
Lord T
Well remember that the average IQ is 100 and we just have to work on the distribution going down to work out where the 20% is. Makes sense to me that 20% want socialist policies, especially at the lower end of the IQ scale.
diogenes
Is virtue signalling a sign of grown up politics?
Mr Ecks
Grown up politics? Corbyn is an scumbag and a brazen arse-kissing admirer of socialist tyranny. The disdain he radiates isn’t a sign of anything “grown-up” with the exception of well-matured evil.
MC
“perhaps the grown ups see that Corbyn does grown up politics”
I’ve not seen ‘grown ups’ used as a euphemism for ‘abject fucking halfwits’ before.
DevonChap
Surely the sign of a grown up is that you have developed and ceased to be a child. Since Mr Corbyn, along with George Monbiot, is proud that he hasn’t changed his mind about anything since he was a teenager, it is hard to call him a grown up.
Supporters of Corbyn aren’t stupid, lots have high education and many have jobs that require technical grasp of complex subjects. But they lack understanding of their lack of knowledge of areas outside their expertise and think they are smarter than everyone else. Ignorant and arrogant at the same time.
john77
@ BraveFart
In that case, why didn’t he graduate from MIT before swanning off to be an actor? With an IQ of 180, he should have finished a MIT course in two years (or done one concurrently with acting).
I’m not a member of the Labour Party, but perhaps I can offer a more nuanced explanation of the poll findings.
First, the actual question on the poll was “Do you think that Jeremy Corbyn is doing well or badly as leader of the Labour party?” with answers “Very well”, “Fairly well”, “Fairly badly”, “Very badly”. My answer would be “so-so”, and that wasn’t an option, so I might have chosen “Fairly well”.
Second, Labour party members are likely to be unimpressed by most of the Telegraph’s charges against Corbyn. The stuff about the Cenotaph and the Privy Council is just media BS. Trident? Meh. Shoot-to-kill? Not well handled from a PR perspective, but actually the security forces have shot dead one suspected terrorist in the UK in the last ten years or so, and he was an innocent Brazilian electrician. Economics? It’s intellectually coherent to want the Labour party to oppose “media macro” – see Simon Wren-Lewis or Chris Dillow.
Third, what do Labour Party members actually want from the party leader? Winning general elections is fun, but they didn’t enjoy the last years of Blair, or any of Brown. For now a lot of them would settle for a leader who shifts the Overton window leftwards – they’re looking for statesmanship from Corbyn to about the extend UKIP wants it from Farage. Which is not much. Things were different when the Trades Unions and MPs had most of the votes for leader – their priority was winning.
Bloke in Wales
First, the actual question on the poll was “Do you think that Jeremy Corbyn is doing well or badly as leader of the Labour party?” with answers “Very well”, “Fairly well”, “Fairly badly”, “Very badly”. My answer would be “so-so”, and that wasn’t an option, so I might have chosen “Fairly well”.
I’d have chosen “Very well’, on the grounds that he’s doing a brilliant job of saving the country from being fucked up again by another Labour government any time soon.
Some intelligent people are delusional.
Richard Nixon once said that no matter how bad things got 18% of people would still vote for you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_French_presidential_election,_2017
Hollande managed to get down to 13% in polling.
Why do about 15 people think you are the Messiah Tim?
Oldgreensocialist: You win stupid leftist question of the decade. The prize is a lifetime supply of Venezuelan luxury toilet paper.
togf – What on earth has Tim got to do with it. He’s just the absent landlord who chucks some fresh* scraps in once a day…
* if we’re lucky
‘Why do about 15 people think you are the Messiah Tim?’
He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy.
The simple answer is his age.
Worth pushing an ideology scraped up from the dustbin of history because he’s not likely to get in and you’ll never have to justify your grand and inevitable failure. If on the off-chance he does win then he’ll only last one term and not have enough time to really f*ck things up, again you’ll not have to pay the consequence.
Despite undergoing the monumental effort of climbing Mount Abbot in his youth, it wont prepare for an election campaign when you’re not far off 80. He’s a one-term duck so you may as well go for broke.
@Runcie
How does Mount Abbot compare to the north face of the Eiger? Or K2?
Salamander
I don’t believe K2 has ever been conquered solo…
I’d like to conquer K3 solo. Particularly the previous lineup: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K3_(band)
@abacab – just make sure that they don’t sing, under any circumstances. Bloody awful language for music.
“How does Mount Abbot compare to the north face of the Eiger?”
Devoid of natural beauty, Mount Abbott is darker, warmer but more slippery.
Bloody deep crevasses as well
The interesting thing is that Corbyn can only be a stop gap unless the PLP adopts the geronto – socialist style of USSR and China
They don’t have to be as thick as pigshit?
If you don’t have a lot invested in the status quo, Corbyn looks an entirely reasonable alternative.
Compared with the current incumbents, almost anything’s a reasonable alternative.
It’s just a protest vote. He has given very few indications of how he will lead his party, other than by show trials.
Maybe they’re looking at the other candidates for running Labour. Corbyn, the vote of despair.
Poor Jeremy, he didn’t realise Mount Diane was a name; not an instruction from the local soviet.
Considering that most of my teachers and lecturers from the ’80s would be Corbynites, I reckon that extrapolating across the rest of the ejikashun and local government sectors, 20% ought to be a doddle.
What % of the electorate work directly for the State?
If 20% the he really is fucking up.
iPhone fail.
If 20% then he’s really fucked up.
Ok I give up for now
‘Poor Jeremy, he didn’t realise Mount Diane was a name; not an instruction from the local soviet’.
I am so glad I wasn’t drinking anything when I read that.
More to the point a not insignificant % of the population get their kicks from having power over other people and ordering them around. Scratch any hard line socialist and you’ll find someone who would happily patrol the ‘re-education’ camp fences with a machine gun, and shoot those trying to escape. Most have aspirations further up the blood stained socialist power ladder of course, but any position of power will do them. Its what gets them off.
20% is about 1/2 a standard deviation in normal distribution which is apparently 15 on an IQ bell curve. So that’s 20% of population with an IQ less than 92.5. Is an IQ of 92 pigshit thick?
Funny, I would’ve thought the core tory vote was a little higher than 20%
Far be it from me but perhaps the grown ups see that Corbyn does grown up politics as opposed to the sneering grandstanding petty point-scoring bullshit of Cameron.
According to folklore, actor James Woods has an IQ of 180.
Well remember that the average IQ is 100 and we just have to work on the distribution going down to work out where the 20% is. Makes sense to me that 20% want socialist policies, especially at the lower end of the IQ scale.
Is virtue signalling a sign of grown up politics?
Grown up politics? Corbyn is an scumbag and a brazen arse-kissing admirer of socialist tyranny. The disdain he radiates isn’t a sign of anything “grown-up” with the exception of well-matured evil.
“perhaps the grown ups see that Corbyn does grown up politics”
I’ve not seen ‘grown ups’ used as a euphemism for ‘abject fucking halfwits’ before.
Surely the sign of a grown up is that you have developed and ceased to be a child. Since Mr Corbyn, along with George Monbiot, is proud that he hasn’t changed his mind about anything since he was a teenager, it is hard to call him a grown up.
Supporters of Corbyn aren’t stupid, lots have high education and many have jobs that require technical grasp of complex subjects. But they lack understanding of their lack of knowledge of areas outside their expertise and think they are smarter than everyone else. Ignorant and arrogant at the same time.
@ BraveFart
In that case, why didn’t he graduate from MIT before swanning off to be an actor? With an IQ of 180, he should have finished a MIT course in two years (or done one concurrently with acting).
I’m not a member of the Labour Party, but perhaps I can offer a more nuanced explanation of the poll findings.
First, the actual question on the poll was “Do you think that Jeremy Corbyn is doing well or badly as leader of the Labour party?” with answers “Very well”, “Fairly well”, “Fairly badly”, “Very badly”. My answer would be “so-so”, and that wasn’t an option, so I might have chosen “Fairly well”.
Second, Labour party members are likely to be unimpressed by most of the Telegraph’s charges against Corbyn. The stuff about the Cenotaph and the Privy Council is just media BS. Trident? Meh. Shoot-to-kill? Not well handled from a PR perspective, but actually the security forces have shot dead one suspected terrorist in the UK in the last ten years or so, and he was an innocent Brazilian electrician. Economics? It’s intellectually coherent to want the Labour party to oppose “media macro” – see Simon Wren-Lewis or Chris Dillow.
Third, what do Labour Party members actually want from the party leader? Winning general elections is fun, but they didn’t enjoy the last years of Blair, or any of Brown. For now a lot of them would settle for a leader who shifts the Overton window leftwards – they’re looking for statesmanship from Corbyn to about the extend UKIP wants it from Farage. Which is not much. Things were different when the Trades Unions and MPs had most of the votes for leader – their priority was winning.
I’d have chosen “Very well’, on the grounds that he’s doing a brilliant job of saving the country from being fucked up again by another Labour government any time soon.
Strangely enough, neither am I 🙂