Interesting, eh?

Angela Merkel’s generous open-door policy towards people fleeing Syria’s civil war has been thrown into confusion after Berlin announced that the hundreds of thousands of Syrians entering Germany would not be granted asylum or refugee status. The announcement from the interior ministry on Friday showed panic at the top in Berlin, with the swiftly issued semi-denials only intensifying the sense of confusion and knee-jerk responses over refugees.

Syrians would only be allowed to enter Germany for one year, are barred from having family members join them, and would only enjoy “subsidiary protection” which limits their rights as refugees, the interior ministry announced.

Open door becomes not so open door.

19 thoughts on “Interesting, eh?”

  1. Bit late now, isn’t it? They’re already there, or en route in other countries who never asked for this. Is Germany going to start putting people on trains and sending them Eastward? I’m sure they’ve still got the manuals lying around somewhere…

  2. In August, Merkel won global plaudits by suspending EU immigration rules to declare any Syrians would gain refugee status in Germany

    Shame she’s paid to serve the interests of Germans, not “Syrian” invaders or global applauders.

    Merkel is also pressing countries such as Croatia, Slovenia, and Serbia to establish “reception centres” or camps where refugees can be processed and screened before they reach Germany.

    Why should they? If I was Johnny Adriatic I’d send every last one of them to Germany with a handwritten note saying “here’s the ‘refugees’ you invited. Enjoy! xxx”

    Let them eat khat.

    Berlin is the most powerful advocate of sharing the refugee burden across the EU

    “They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.” – Sir Arthur “Bomber” Harris.

  3. Any other country, let’s say Hungary, that pulled the same trick before Germany did would have been put in a lot of hot water – condemned, obviously, most likely have legal action taken against them. Perhaps it would even be taken as evidence of such extreme far-rightness that they’d be sanctioned like Austria was when Haider got into coalition.

    Is the EU meant to be a union of equal states? Obviously in practice countries like Germany are going to be more influential, but it seems extraordinary that in this case they can essentially set a policy for the whole EU, then double back on it in a way that would see others tarred as extremist.

  4. In practice, in ten years time the number of Syrians still in Germany is likely to be in the hundreds of thousands – hard to physically remove that many people, hard to legally remove them given the mess in the Middle East is likely to fester and the strong legal protections they’re going to have.

    Can only see that a volta face like this is going to breed resentment, without really giving the German government much extra mechanism to remove people in practice.

    A few months ago these people loved Mutti and the CDU. By the time they get the right to vote – and surely many will, they’re not going anywhere fast – it’s likely be quite a different story if this kind of trick keeps being pulled on them.

  5. Bloke in North Dorset

    “Syrians would only be allowed to enter Germany for one year, are barred from having family members join them, and would only enjoy “subsidiary protection” which limits their rights as refugees, the interior ministry announced.”

    The ECHR will soon sort that one out.

  6. “Syrians would only be allowed to enter Germany for one year”

    And at the end of that year, what happens?

    I’m assuming this doesn’t apply to just ‘Syrians’ – it would be ironic if the migrants/refugees from the one genuinely war-torn country were singled out in this way, but not others.

    Anyway, some time in late Summer next year there are going to be several hundred thousand young men whose ‘year’ has expired. What is Germany going to do with them? They’ll have three options (I’m beginning to sound like Murphy):

    1. Do nothing
    2. ‘Extend’ for another year, but this is the final one (getting tough!)
    3. Deport them.

    It would be quite a turnaround to go from open borders to mass deportation inside twelve months. Merkel committed a blunder of historic proportions with her invitation. It was incredible. I can only assume she was drunk when she made it.

  7. Rob – I dunno about drunk but a previously very level headed guy I knew got very seriously injured and was put on morphine. Luckily he want allowed back to work until his injury healed but his private life disintegrated because of the grandiose and absurd gestures he kept making while off his tits. Medication wouldn’t surprise me at all in Merkel’s case.

  8. Has the fat cow been defeated and forced to climbdown in some in-house coup?.

    It couldn’t happen to nicer fat, DDR, multi-culti cow. In a way this mess might be good news. A slow insidious takeover would have gone unchecked. By trying the mad antic of rushing to do the job overnight the fat bovine may just have tipped the balance against Islamic takeover.

  9. According to the Raedwald blog the whole situation has been put back to where it was. So Fatcow has not (yet) been bested then.

  10. Rob hits the nail on the head when he notes that here are some, SOME, refugees and a whole lot more economic migrants. The international rules on refugees were set down in the early part of the twentieth century and have been completely ignored this summer so that Western European governments and media and the Twitterati could signal their virtue. Now Autumn is with us and we need to deal with the problem..and what a problem it is

    But there are couple of things we should say:

    1. Our government did not join in this sick tokenism. Perhaps somebody would like to acknowledge that it did actually act in our interests this summer.
    2. The fault lies with the Europeans and NOT the migrants. If you were young and ambitious and living in Syria or Iraq or Sudan or Ethiopia or Lybia or Nigeria what exactly would you do when the German or Swedish governments make the sort of half – brained offer they made this summer?

  11. “The fault lies with the Europeans and NOT the migrants. If you were young and ambitious and living in Syria or Iraq or Sudan or Ethiopia or Lybia or Nigeria what exactly would you do when the German or Swedish governments make the sort of half – brained offer they made this summer?”

    We need an important distinction, here.
    For “Europeans” read European politicians. Large numbers of actual European people are making no secret of their views. And “what exactly would you do when the German or Swedish governments make the sort of half – brained offer they made this summer?” Note that your own governments don’t always act in your interests, so why presume European governments act in Europeans’ interests.? Ask yourself how you’d feel if hordes of Germans & swedes turned up on your doorstep requiring feeding & housing.
    The Europols need to be very careful this whole issue isn’t taken out of their hands. Before the arson attacks, assaults & killings start. Or they get thrown out in favour of pols with thoughts of cattle trucks & camps in their heads.

  12. To clarify the above, before the inevitable:
    Whilst I live in a country not my own, i don’t give a monkey’s f**k about my rights under European law or any of the other bollocks. I’m a grateful guest on sufferance. I’m thankful for the wonderful welcome but if I wear it out, I’m gone. I have no rights, just obligations.

  13. “Is the EU meant to be a union of equal states? Obviously in practice countries like Germany are going to be more influential”

    The “more” should be the key here. Germany should be “more” influential than, say, Portugal but that’s it. Germany is a minority shareholder like all other EU states, and we have quite enough EU Presidents as it is.

    Somehow, “German” has become a synonym for “EU”, as in “German taxpayers to bail out Greece”.

    Time for a new Entente Cordiale perhaps.

  14. Or, “When in Rome” BiS. Simple as that isn’t it?

    I am on a crusade to stop indigenous inhabitants of the Great Satan saying “savings”, as in “that’s a savings of”, but I have no plans to make this an armed struggle, or use the courts.

  15. As was noted on another site, what happens when Germany closes it doors and you have hundreds of thousands of angry young men in transit?

    You could have the situation where there are more “stuck” migrants of military age in countries than their own standing armies…

  16. You move them on until they reach the German border. Unlike ours, it isn’t at least 26 miles wide and filled with water. There’s no way Germany can stop people getting across the border.

    They (or at least the German government/polity) asked for this, so they can deal with it.

    I am still flabbergasted they made this decision. A few days of pressure from SJWs and they caved in to get a brief fix from virtue signalling. It’s like Merkel got a bit pissed, gave into temptation and got knocked up by the local chav, and now has to deal with the results.

  17. Tim Newman:

    ” Is Germany going to start putting people on trains and sending them Eastward? I’m sure they’ve still got the manuals lying around somewhere…”

    I think they gave them to the Société Nationale des Chemins de Fer for safekeeping.

  18. So Much For Subtlety

    Bloke in North Dorset – “The ECHR will soon sort that one out.”

    Every single one will appeal any decision made. I would guess it will take an average of ten years and a million euros per claimant. No. No one is going anywhere.

    Rob – “3. Deport them.”

    Pakistan has just announced it is not going to take any back. Deport them where precisely?

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