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No, absolutely not, no way Jose

Motorists would then be forced to pay a £100 fine as well as having points added to their licence, or could opt instead to attend a speed awareness course, costing £90.
But rather than being used to improve road safety, the controversial plan is intended to raise millions of pounds in revenue for the police.

Under no circumstances whatever should fines for criminal behaviour be used to fund those who find or charge criminal behaviour.

That’s the way you get to the American system where cops are deliberately set targets to raise money to feed the cops.

Just no. All revenues flow to the centre, all revenue is allocated by the centre.

13 thoughts on “No, absolutely not, no way Jose”

  1. Agreed, Tim.

    But there’s a wee bit more to this than a simple cash-grab by Plod.

    It’s the latest bright idea from Olly Martins, Fleece and Crime Cummisshiner.

    He’s an attention-seeking mong, and his surprisingly detailed and Olly Martins-aggrandising wikipedo page bears all the hallmarks of having being written by… Olly Martins. ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

    Anyway, sez Olly:

    “We have lobbied the Home Office for fair funding but they have not listened so I am forced to come up with new ways of raising revenue.”

    Y’see, he’s been forced into this by those bastard Tories. By an amazing coinkydink, Olly is a member of the Labour Party. So if you don’t like Fuhrerspacker Martins’ ideas to use highway robbery as a revenue raising strategy, or to put sponsors logos on police uniforms, or to tell burglary victims they’ll be contacted via Skype, well… VOTE LABOUR! lobby the government for “fair” funding!

    Another fine mess…

  2. Well, I hate to be the bearer of grim tidings, but the Old Bill have had targets for years, renewed, funnily enough, every 1 April.

    March is a bad time to leave your seatbelt undone, chat on your phone while driving or forget to renew your VED.

  3. He wants to collect motorway speeding fines for his (force’s) own use? Errr… motorways are not part of the council’s highway network, they’re not public highway, they’re special road and are under national government remit. Local plod are in effect “deputised” to operate on motorways on behalf of the highways agency, they’re not operating there as local plod.

  4. “…pay a £100 fine as well as having points added to their licence…”

    I’ve long said they should be not be allowed to impose both penalties simultaneously for “camera” offenses. Then it would be clear what they’re really interested in.

  5. ‘That’s the way you get to the American system where cops are deliberately set targets to raise money to feed the cops.’

    Right you are, Tim.

  6. Driving on UK roads with a German numberplate solves this problem. It’s worked thus far anyway.

    I do that with my French plates, safe in the knowledge that there is no way a British civil servant will be able to coordinate the transfer of any fine with their French counterparts. I know enough not to try that in Belgium though.

  7. “Driving on UK roads with a German numberplate solves this problem.”

    I would be cautious about that if I were you. I think the EU has it well in hand. It may take time, but they’ll get their money.

    As a radical idea, how about driving within the speed limit? It’s just a thought.

  8. @Alan_t: November 5, 2015 at 11:57 am

    Won’t raise much revenue, chances of reaching 70 on that stretch of the M1 are slim at the best of times

    No need to do 70… The cameras are on the variable speed limited sections – set the limit to 40 when the road is reasonably clear and sit back and count the cash.

    IIRC, all the “speed awareness” courses are run as subcontract jobs under the auspices of ACPO Ltd (Association of Chief Police Officers). Nice little earner that one!

  9. One difference with USA speed/red light cameras: The vehicle owner is NOT responsible for the fine/points. The driver must be clearly identified in the photo. If your wife is caught (for instance) while driving your car, you just say, ‘Nope, that’s not me.’ The cops always ask you to identify the driver, but you don’t have to. (Another way to avoid the photo is to wear a hat with a big brim and look down before the flash.)

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