Actually quite funny

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Not that some people see it that way:

Is it possible that advertising companies have any kind of vetting process whatsoever? Are there meetings in which the phrase “That sounds like it might be offensive?” are ever uttered? I’m asking. Because in just the past few days, Coke had to reconsider if a “white people bestow cola on the natives” ad was a hot idea, Bloomingdales needed to be told that holiday ad campaigns should not insinuate sexual assault, and Amazon rethought green-lighting its choice to festoon a subway car in Axis power imagery. And now in New Zealand the Auckland-based signage company Cranium has issued an apology and made a donation to Rainbow Youth after running a blatantly transphobic holiday billboard.

But it is at least vaguely funny, so fuck’em. Preferably with Bruce’s hotdog, not your or mine.

Interesting that there’s still no explanation of what, if not to snark on a trans woman, the meaning of the ad was.

There was no other meaning. Snark can be funny, that’s all.

 

30 thoughts on “Actually quite funny”

  1. “White people bestow Cola on natives” would be OK with the PC brigade if Cola was replaced with something dodgy like “pornographic videos”, because that rubbishes white people’s culture. One of the cardinal rules of political correctness is one should always laud backward cultures like Islam and denigrate more advanced cultures.

  2. Because in just the past few days, Coke had to reconsider if a “white people bestow cola on the natives” ad was a hot idea, Bloomingdales needed to be told that holiday ad campaigns should not insinuate sexual assault, and Amazon rethought green-lighting its choice to festoon a subway car in Axis power imagery.

    The Coca Cola ad was just a bunch of annoyingly perky white teenagers handing out soft drinks to some Mexican villagers. It was no more offensive than that bloody “The Holidays Are Coming!” saccharine shite.

    The Bloomingdales advert was clearly meant as a joke. Maybe not a terribly funny one, but if we banned unfunny jokes Marcus Brigstocke would starve to death.

    The Amazon ad was just some seats with this on them, promoting the “What if the baddies won WW2?” show The Man In The High Castle. If you’re offended by that, The Producers would probably give you a stroke.

    May I suggest Phil go listen to Laverne Cox on the subject, specifically the Katie Couric interview in which she explained, “The preoccupation with transition and surgery objectifies trans people. And then we don’t get to really deal with the real lived experiences.”

    We don’t care.

    What’s in Caitlyn Jenner’s pants happens to be nobody’s business, because it doesn’t matter.

    I’m pretty sure Jenner doesn’t give a rat’s backside about this ad. It’s not as if he’s some sort of publicity-shy wallflower trying to live a quiet, private life.

  3. God that’s fantastic.

    Are Salon really that naive about the “vetting process”, or just feeding their readers naivety? If a large company puts something on one billboard, it isn’t designed to be seen, it’s designed to be photographed and retweeted.

  4. What is in Caitlyn Jenner’s pants happens to be nobody’s business, because it doesn’t matter.

    Really? Its fucking 24/7. This stuff is all over the Internet, blogs, fucking everywhere. It drives you nuts.

  5. Steve,

    “We don’t care.”

    The ‘trans community’ are like the Only Gay in the Village from Little Britain, where all their talk about being oppressed and attention whoring is pissing me off more than their choice.

    And I’m frankly bored of people trying to turn occassional bad treatment into campaigns. Yes, I’m sure that trans people get beaten up just for being trans by the odd arsehole. But it’s not us, and it’s not like we’re down the pub and someone casually tells us they beat up a trans person as if it were fiddling their taxes. “Oh, but we want people to get the message that being bad to trans people is bad”. And 99% of people agree with you. And the other 1% are arseholes that think it’s OK to beat you up, so good luck convincing them.

  6. So, is Jenner being paid for promoting the product? ‘Cos if my image was used without consent to promote a product, the invoice would be in the post toute suite. If this has been done with consent, then, well, there isn’t an issue.

  7. Good point longrider.

    And then I would sue Salon for damaging my earnings by having the ad withdrawn.

    Humourless cunts.

    We are losing the struggle.

  8. The Stigler – And I’m frankly bored of people trying to turn occassional bad treatment into campaigns.

    Remember when people didn’t want to portray themselves as pathetic victims?

    Good times.

  9. The primary aim of any ad is to get it as widely noticed as possible.

    People belly-aching over an ad gets it publicised in media which the advertisers have not had to pay to get it publicised… then there is the second free round of publicity, the apology.

    If they are lucky the loony brigade won’t let it rest, so a third round of free publicity.

  10. Bloke in Costa Rica

    As far as I know, Bruce Jenner hasn’t had his undercarriage lopped off yet, so given the fact he managed to bang six babies into three separate women his is probably fuller than most. Although if the hormone treatments have kicked in he might have suffered a bit of shrinkage.

  11. “If they are lucky the loony brigade won’t let it rest, so a third round of free publicity.”

    Not a bad strategy – manipulate the loony brigade into giving you free publicity amongst the non-loony that would cost you a fortune if you actually had to pay for it. And with greater impact than you could if you did.

  12. I would also suggest Vanity Fair might have something to say about copyright of the image…

    The only relevant issue here is consent to use the image. That’s it. Stealing someone else’s pictures to plug your product is not on. If they haven’t paid for the image, they are in breach of copyright.

    As to whether it is funny. Not really. A bit weak, frankly.

  13. The ‘trans community’ are like the Only Gay in the Village from Little Britain, where all their talk about being oppressed and attention whoring is pissing me off more than their choice.

    I’m trans. What is this “community” of which we speak?

  14. Would that be the trans community that have protested at Jenner not being representative of them?

  15. @Longrider

    I would expect that the photo is a library one being used in accordance with the terms of the license granted to the photographer/library by Jenner and hisher agent.

    That won’t stop SJW galloons from having kittens though.

  16. “if we banned unfunny jokes Marcus Brigstocke would starve to death.”

    Run the downsides of this arrangement past me again, would you?

  17. “if we banned unfunny jokes Marcus Brigstocke would starve to death.”

    I don’t agree that Modern Life Is Rubbish, as many seem to on here, believing instead that a great many things have got very much better during my lifetime.

    However, the gap between the civilisation represented by I’m Sorry I Haven’t A Clue and the civilisation represented by Brigstocke is genuinely tragic.

  18. If I were convinced that I were, say, a seal rather than a man, should I have surgery to modify my body to the form that I believed it ought to be? Should the fees of the surgeons, doctors, nurses and others required for the modifications be paid from ordinary folks’ taxes through the NHS?
    Or should I just be told not to be so daft, perhaps offered psychotherapy – or maybe thrown in the loony bin?
    Discuss…

  19. gareth: If I were convinced that I were, say, a seal rather than a man, should I have surgery…

    I think you should be encouraged, at your own expense, to find fulfilment in whatever way you can. Perhaps lots of chocolate hobnobs until you reach an adequate degree of blubber-contentment and then some stout gauntlets to clap together.

    On balance (like the rubber ball on your nose if you get that far in your project) you should do what suits you best while not bothering me beyond paying for some herring in lieu of your winter fuel payment.

    Theophrastus: Enjoy! Yuk

  20. The Meissen Bison: “not bothering me beyond paying for some herring in lieu of your winter fuel payment.”

    Sadly, seals don’t live long enough to to be entitled to winter fuel payments. And there’s the “rubber ball tax”. Just a couple of examples of our victim-hood and the discrimination we have to suffer on a tidal basis. And you are stereotyping me with the herrings – many trans-seals are vegan.

  21. gareth: I unreservedly withdraw the herring stereotype which I hurtfully ascribed to your empetrous persona and I hope you enjoy your remaining months or, if you’re spared, even years.

    Since they might be your last, why not spend next spring and summer wallowing in the soothing, gentle waters of the French riviera where the locals always welcome a visiting phoque?

  22. So Much For Subtlety

    gareth – “If I were convinced that I were, say, a seal rather than a man, should I have surgery to modify my body to the form that I believed it ought to be? ”

    Google Denis Avner. Who did in fact become convinced he was rightfully a tiger.

    “Or should I just be told not to be so daft, perhaps offered psychotherapy – or maybe thrown in the loony bin? Discuss…”

    A genuinely compassionate society would have offered Avner therapy. America did not. He killed himself.

  23. SMFS: Isn’t it fair to say that some quirks are so out of the way that no society, however compassionate, should be expected to cater for them?

    And why should it be society’s responsibility if Denis Anver thinks he’s a tiger or gareth thinks he’s a seal? You can do your unenlightened best by offering, as the case might be, herrings or steak tartare and still get it horribly wrong.

    But at least it’s clear that there’s a victim and that blame should be apportioned.

  24. So Much For Subtlety

    The Meissen Bison – “Isn’t it fair to say that some quirks are so out of the way that no society, however compassionate, should be expected to cater for them?”

    Is it? Isn’t it? I don’t know. We don’t cater for people whose quirks are an obsession with pre-teen school girls. Even if no children are ever harmed. Perhaps we should. Generally I think that the expectation of society should be towards encouraging people to be as quirky as they like. However I think there is a limit even if the limits are very hard to define.

    “And why should it be society’s responsibility if Denis Anver thinks he’s a tiger or gareth thinks he’s a seal?”

    Because he was clearly ill. I am sure there was nothing that could be done, but in the end when someone has a mental health problem we should be trying to offer solutions. There is a difference between odd behaviour that is the product of mental illness and quirkiness. If someone is hearing voices, they are ill. We should not embrace their uniqueness. We should try to cure them. Whatever Avner’s problems were, turning himself into a tiger did not cure them. Just as cutting off health legs, which you can get for free on the NHS, will not cure the people who think they should have fewer legs. Just as cutting Jenner’s testicles off won’t solve his problems either.

    “But at least it’s clear that there’s a victim and that blame should be apportioned.”

    Maybe not in Avner’s case.

  25. So Much For Subtlety

    The Meissen Bison – “Isn’t it fair to say that some quirks are so out of the way that no society, however compassionate, should be expected to cater for them?”

    There is a commitment to personal choice and then there is trying to help people. I think that this discussion is often a problem because people have pre-set agendas and political sympathies. OK.

    What if someone comes to see his doctor and tells the doctor that he is having feelings of attraction to the young men he sees around town. And this is making him morbidly afraid of going to hell. As homosexuality is a sin. So he would like to be castrated.

    Should the NHS allow free choice when that choice results in irreversible damage, or should it offer therapy?

  26. Gareth and MB

    Your exchange about the trans-seal brightened my morning.

    MB: the yuk factor of that video was off the scale!

  27. Longrider,

    “I’m trans. What is this “community” of which we speak?”

    That’s why I put ‘trans community’ in quotes. I get that these people don’t represent all, or maybe even some trans people, but declare themselves as spokespeople for all.

  28. A man who believes he’s a seal should certainly not be thrown in the loony bin.

    He should be thrown in the sea. In a careful manner obviously.

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