Not what happened at all

The genius of “Tusk”: Fleetwood Mac could have followed “Rumours” with more of the same — but they made this visionary masterpiece instead
Fleetwood Mac looked a sure-fire commercial hit in the eye — and made the most punk rock soft rock album ever

No, really, just no.

What happened is that the coke habits kicked in.

35 thoughts on “Not what happened at all”

  1. “In many ways, Fleetwood Mac had become the embodiment of ’70s rock (still are, really)”

    You what now? Anyway, no mention of drugs in the entire article; this may be a first.

  2. Sadly, Fleetwood Mac stopped after the era of Green / McVie / Spencer / Kirwan. The Stevie Nicks “dancing chicken” version was an abomination.

  3. Bloke in Costa Rica

    Beg to differ: there were some cracking tunes out of the Nicks/Buckingham/Christine McVie era. They were different from the Peter Green era stuff but still excellent. It probably helps to think of it as two different bands which just happened to be called Fleetwood Mac.

  4. Agree with BiC
    There’s the Pete Green blues band – Fleetwood Mac
    And there’s Mac.
    And rather like Tusk
    Still play it, regularly.
    In fact, thanks for the reminder……start with Storms

  5. Off topic.

    Leytonstone – the most shocking thing is not that it took seven minutes for police to arrive but in that time none of the dozens of commuters could band together and restrain him, instead they stand around filming him attempt to murder someone while they wait for the police to arrive. All responsibility to help removed from them by the state.

    And yet twitter is alight with praising the police instead of damning the bystanders.

    Where are a couple of off duty American servicemen when you need them?

  6. Bloke in North Dorset

    Back on topic, it wasn’t just the drugs, there was some serious falling out going on as well.

    I also agree with BiCR, two separate bands doing some good stuff. And who can forget this classic:

    I can’t help about the shape I’m in
    I can’t sing, I ain’t pretty and my legs are thin
    But don’t ask me what I think of you
    I might not give the answer that you want me to

    Oh well

    Now, when I talked to God I knew he’d understand
    He said, “Stick by my side and I’ll be your guiding hand
    But don’t ask me what I think of you
    I might not give the answer that you want me to”

    Oh well

  7. >I think I’d prefer a dancing chicken to this soft rock pap, frankly.

    True, but then I’d prefer a dancing chicken to almost anything.

  8. I’m struggling to think of albums that are, you might say “complete” as works, and are awesome from start to finish.

    In my view, “Rumours” is one of them.
    “Dark Side of the Moon” is another.
    “Moving Waves” by Focus is a third (and possibly a bit niche).

    And I’m struggling to think of more, although I’m sure there are some.

  9. The hypothetical archaeologists of the distant future might wonder why the masses of the late 20thC/early 21stC preferred musically banal electronic sounds to string quartets. Who knows?

  10. String quartets are kind of boring. Back in particular tends to just diddle on like a polyphonic ringtone. Far too much sounding like a cadence that you think has brought the piece to an end, then it just keeps diddling on.

  11. Patrick Berkery is a Philadelphia-based drummer and writer who has recorded and toured with the War on Drugs, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, Pernice Brothers, Danielson, and Wesley Stace. He is also a regular contributor to Modern Drummer magazine. Twitter: @patrickdberkery

    Golgafrincham (ian?) alert. FFS “Clap Your Hands Say Yeah”.

    Bodies innit “Die little baby

  12. “The hypothetical archaeologists of the distant future might wonder why the masses of the late 20thC/early 21stC preferred musically banal electronic sounds to string quartets.”

    Future archaeologists will probably see that period enjoying the highest proportion of the population hearing and appreciating string quartets. Before home audio (inc. radio)the “masses” will have hardly ever (essentially never) heard “classical” music, and the peak of home audio has probably passed.

  13. PJF-

    Indeed. We live in a time of unimaginable artistic bounty in all media. If 90% is crap, the remaining 10% is far greater in quantity and range than our ancestors experienced.

  14. IanB

    String quartets are kind of boring. Back [Bach?] in particular tends to just diddle on like a polyphonic ringtone.

    Bach didn’t write string quartets – i.e. 2 x violins, cello + viola – though some of his music has been arranged for string quartet. Essentially, the form starts with Haydn in the 1750s, shortly after Bach’s death.

  15. Bloke in North Dorset

    It just happens that Sky Arts are having a Fleetwood Mac 2 night. Currently showing a Stevie Nicks consert and later the inevitable making of Rumours.

    Hopefully future archaeologists will appreciate the diversity of music, but might wonder why we listened to it in such compressed form on computers and the like.

  16. Bloke in Costa Rica

    “why we listened to it in such compressed form on computers and the like”

    Because an iPhone is more portable than a rock band and a fortiori a symphony orchestra, and it doesn’t need rest periods. What do you mean by compressed? MP3s? I thought we’d got past that nonsense (a 320 kbps MP3 is indistinguishable from the raw CDDA no matter what ‘audiophiles’ say.)

  17. So Much For Subtlety

    Ian B – “Everyone hopes somebody else will, and nobody therefore does.”

    Ardant du Picq, perhaps France’s only great military theorist since Napoleon, said that four men who do not know each other will fear a lion. Four men who do, will do not hesitate for a second.

    Ironic, really, that morale should have been his thing. Maybe the French should have listened to him.

  18. So Much For Subtlety

    tomo – “salon.com seems to regularly throw up this sort of stuff … they’re even better at politics and economics…”

    There is no click bait like aging rock click bait. But to really do it properly, he should have said Tusk was better than anything that Genesis ever did.

    (For the record, I like Tusk)

  19. Ian B, perhaps so, I know this behaviour is quite common in groups, but even so.

    Now this #youaintnomuslimbuv hashtag has taken off and I think it’s the saddest I’ve ever felt to be British. That people stood around for 7 minutes while an attempted decapitation happened in front of them and someone shouts from the sidelines and it has now become “THE London response” and “proud to be British” and “Swelling with pride at the hashtag”

    For the Love of Jesus H Christ, the terrorists must be pissing themselves at our weakness.

  20. So Much For Subtlety

    Off topic: The National Front seems to be out in front in the French regional elections. Maybe a third of the votes. People are claiming they may take six of the thirteen regions.

    I doubt this. I suspect a last-minute arrival of votes from Senegal or somewhere will prevent it. Also it means that if they only take four, the media can spin this as a defeat.

    So I guess that means more of the poisonous Hungarian dwarf as President. The Socialists got pushed into third place.

    Still I think we should concentrate on the important question – is Marion Marechal-Le Pen the hottest politician in France at the moment? I would say Europe, but I refuse to accept the existence of this body except as a geographical term.

  21. So Much For Subtlety

    magnusw – “That people stood around for 7 minutes while an attempted decapitation happened in front of them”

    Well that is the point of gun control isn’t it? They want us to be sheep. They want us to pay our taxes and leave the “active citizenship” things to them.

    Helpless sheep we are.

    “For the Love of Jesus H Christ, the terrorists must be pissing themselves at our weakness.”

    As Mark Steyn says, they don’t hate us, they despise us. Rightly so. Actually. It is sad to say so but it is true. Yet again proving that ISIS may well turn out to be the least bad option facing the British public.

  22. SMFS,

    “Still I think we should concentrate on the important question – is Marion Marechal-Le Pen the hottest politician in France at the moment? I would say Europe, but I refuse to accept the existence of this body except as a geographical term.”

    I’d be shocked if there’s anyone hotter, considering the general standard. That said, not my type.

    In UK parliament, it’s pretty much Gloria Del Piero. Penny Mordaunt would definitely be totty if she lost some weight.

  23. I used to work in Leytonstone and have used the tube from there.

    There are mosaics on the walls of the exit tunnels showing scenes from Hitchcock movies (he came from there).

    Probably not worth going to Leytonstone just for that but if you happen to be that way anyway, worth checking out as mildly interesting.

  24. That people stood around for 7 minutes while an attempted decapitation happened in front of them and someone shouts from the sidelines and it has now become “THE London response” and “proud to be British” and “Swelling with pride at the hashtag”

    There’s a Facebook page doing the rounds about how thankful we must be for the intervention of the Met. Please. Policemen going up against gunmen with AK-47s as happened during the Charlie Hebdo massacre was brave, a group of policemen coming to tackle somebody wielding a knife? Shit, this has been expected of policemen since Victorian times. And why should we be thankful for the Met in this instance? This is their job FFS! And the irony is, this is the Met that have done so much to browbeat the public into not defending themselves or “taking the law into their own hands” and now they expect a standing ovation for intervening. Fuck off!

  25. Bloke in Costa Rica

    It was a Stanley knife, to boot, not a fricking KA_BAR. I really, really like to think I would have done something, like picking up one of those retractable belt barrier things that always seem to be standing about in Tube stations and fucking twatting him until brains came out, but I don’t know. I might have shit myself. I do know this: if the normal reaction to public displays of Islamist fuckwittery was fairly instantaneous lynching, there’d be a lot less of it about.

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