Shkreli’s perp walk

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It is just so important that a white collar suspect be handcuffed and paraded in front of the cameras at the time of his arrest, isn’t it?

Theatre, pure theatre.

And yes, of course they tipped off the media to make sure they were there to record it. The Reuters report even states as much.

What would be lost, other than the aggrandisement of the State, if the British system were adopted with non-violent, non-flight risk people: could we make an appointment for you to come down to the police station to be arrested please sir?

Other than that display of the power of the State of course.

38 thoughts on “Shkreli’s perp walk”

  1. It’s very easy to break the law when selling drugs. So easy that it happens all the time. Glad I’m personally one step removed.

    And in the US even minor breaches of obscure requirements of byzantine rules come with 30-year jail terms.

    I hope they make this odious toad an example to others who might be tempted to follow his business model.

  2. Agreed on the basic point, but as I learned during the DSK fiasco, the US does the perp walk so that people can see who is being arrested, instead of people disappearing in the middle of the night in bread vans.

  3. And this arsehole, they would arrest and jail for letting his dog shit on the sidewalk. If he hadn’t done it they might not have looked at the dodgy deals either. If you’re gonna piss the authorities off the way he did, you have to be squeaky-clean in everything.

  4. To put anecdata to Tim’s comment, just look at the various Chinese “our CEO is missing. We think he might be helping police with their enquiries,” stories of recent weeks.

  5. Bloke in North Dorset

    Someone once said to me that when you run a business in France you are always breaking a law, you just never know which one as there’s so many, or words to that effect.

    I don’t know how true it is but it also seems to apply to the USA and to a certain extent here.

    Cato ran a daily podcast recently making the point that they’ve also taken mens rea out of a lot of laws as well.

  6. He is doubtless an unpleasant idiot. Whether his deals are dodgy is another point. Given the legions of obscure laws that now exist in every area of business (and to a lesser area in all life) he is likely to have broken some law. If that makes him a real transgressor against morality is another matter. Given that every septic is now said to break about 3 of the Federal Tyranny’s laws each and every day.

    Is his arrest for some real transgression of morality or is it a trendy arrest of an unpopular fellow that some bureaucratic or cop turd has decided needs bringing down a peg or two?

    Because they can.

    Or to show any particular group–if we want you we’ll have you and money won’t save you.

    The laws he will be charged under are complex and the Feds 80% conviction rate is corrupt never mind dodgy.Being about massive numbers of charges, ludicrous sentences and plea bargaining rather than risk a 1000 years in jail shite. If RICO is used against him it will stop even a rich bloke being able to afford decent lawyers.

    TimN: We (in the Anglo world-the West say) should not be comparing ourselves with tinpot bread-van regimes. The Fedscum can announce who has been arrested without marching the arrestee in handcuffs in front of media pricks. There is little doubt in my mind that this is retaliation for his price-raising stupidity. Esp since he raised the price of a drug important to one of the state’s client groups. You can say–“Serves him right”–but it illustrates how the scum of the state now consider themselves absolutely the masters not the servants.

  7. Tim is one of those ridiculous well-connected public school anarchists who strikes anti-State poses to draw attention to himself.If he were to declare himself to be an enemy of the State ,any state, especially ,a welfare state, anywhere but lefty tolerant England,his feet would n’t touch the ground.
    Keiser is right: legally constituted State governments are everywhere fighting against financial jihadis.

  8. Charles Murray’s latest book is very good (and chilling) on the inability to run a business in the States without breaking regulations, and he has some very good ideas about what to do about it.

  9. Keiser is right: legally constituted State governments are everywhere fighting against financial jihadis.

    The “financial jihadis” are usually agents of the state. And they never get punished.

  10. There’s an ex Sec of State whom the FBI just don’t seem to close on. They’re cutting her perp walk rather fine. Petraeus was in the dock, quick as can be, for less.

  11. BiND,

    It’s probably not true in France, but it is certainly true in Russia. Since the Soviet times the authorities there took the approach of “show me the person and I’ll give you the crime”. It’s usually tax irregularities that they use in Russia, because 100% compliance is literally impossible due to contradicting clauses.

  12. Why do you keep peddling shite on here Reed?

    Now Tim is a bad guy because he dares to live and speak his mind in a still slightly free society–the legacy of freedom and free markets that scum like you despise? England –nor anywhere else–never learned jack shit about tolerance from the dross of socialism

    Thank you for pointing out how–if we lived under the scummy tyranny of statism/socialism that you long to drop your pants and grab your ankles for, we would all have to suffer in silence and keep our mouths shut about the daily injustice and evil that is leftism. Or risk the same torture , imprisonment and brutal death that many millions of human beings have already undergone thanks to the scum creed you love and abase your worthless self before.

    Piss up your leg and play with the steam Reed. Much as I hate the whole perp-walk caper, the sooner you and your leftist buddies are up there on the pavement catwalk the better.

  13. Ecksy is right.

    Shreki (or whatever) is an unsympathetic character. Having seen him speak, I suspect he’s some type of autist, which may explain his behaviour.

    But… he wasn’t arrested because the Yank authorities were doing normal due diligence. He was arrested because he’s unpopular, he embarrassed the authorities, and somebody decided to make an example of him.

    After the feds railroaded Martha Stewart into prison, and Obama set the IRS on his critics, it’s clear that John Adams’ boast no longer applies. The US is not a government of laws, but a government of out-of-control policemen. They’re not much better than Russia.

  14. Well, no, not really. He’s been arrested because the accusation is that he looted hi precious company. One he got fired from before all of this stuff because they alleged he looted them.

    Allegations, yes, but ones worth investigating.

  15. The purpose of the Perp Walk is pretty much universally acknowledged to be shaming, not avoiding bread van whatever, as was much discussed during the DSK fiasco. It’s part of an American tradition of public lynchings, tarrings and featherings and stuff.

    However, there is also one convention they have that should be much admired; no dock. The accused sits with their lawyer, specifically because the dock is a psychological implication of inequality in the courtroom, implying guilt. They were done away with a long while ago, and we should follow the Americans in this, especially in this age where some old duffer who might have touched some boobs 40 years ago finds himself in a glass box, isolated from the room and his legal counsel, etc.

  16. “What would be lost, other than the aggrandisement of the State, if the British system were adopted with non-violent, non-flight risk people: could we make an appointment for you to come down to the police station to be arrested please sir?”

    The US already has that system. But, as you’ve seen, whether or not you get that courtesy depends greatly on how much *power* you have. and how badly some aspiring politician wants eyeballs on his actions.

    So you, me, some dickish CEO get perp-walked. Leland Ye is arrested with no perp-walk. The more powerful have their attorneys arrange a time for them to turn themselves in.

  17. I long ago decided that ever I’m arrested for anything and there’s a prospect of being paraded before cameras, I’ll comb my hair, put on my best suit and smile and wave.

  18. Ian B
    You’re more from Northampton than I am. I was in good places until quite late on in life. Northampton! the place that sells exhibits in its museum to raise ready money; has an MP (Tory naturally in a low- wage warehousing town -the big manufacturers pissed off to Poland years ago) implicated as a Borough Councillor in the infamous loan to the Football Club chairman which he can’t now account for.

  19. Is the current UK police handling of celebrity sex allegations really any better or different to this.

  20. Sadly–the Northampton story is the story of almost anywhere in the UK now. All places, large or small, have their tales of corruption and villainy and their local leftist whiners who try to claim all would be paradise if massively more of other peoples money could be thrown into the maelstrom of local political/bureaucratic thieving and dirty dealing. And in fairness there are plenty of corporate socialist “businessmen” hangers-on adding their stench to the already fetid pong.

  21. BNIC: It would be worse except most of their victims are too old to walk past the media and a “perp”-wheelchair rally might be a counter-productive gambit in the character-blackening game.

  22. Mr X
    Blinded and brain- softened by self abuse, you have failed to notice that the Northampton story of the missing £9million loaned to David de Cardoza (good Public schoolboy and son of a prominent figure in numerous Private Eye stories about insider trading a while back) is of a Tory Council doing deals with a property speculator who was given a free run at developing reclaimed land next to the football stadium (built by Labour Council on proceeds of selling the municipal bus company) in return for running the club properly and re- building the East Stand.What could go wrong: public school property developer; loads of developable land for nothing; an apparently unsecured loan?
    The lefty solution would have been for the council to develop their land themselves and endow the football club with the proceeds.Strangely this is the option that the present Tory council is mulling over.Commies ! Did millions die in the East Midlands gulags for this?

  23. The Non-thinking Reed Strokes Back!

    I neither know nor care about the details of whatever–you say–may be going on in Northampton. Your leftist anal-ysis is probably dodgier than your mental process. It is of no consequence to my argument.

    My point was that–all over this nation–council scum–both ZaNu and BluLab–official and unofficial socialists– are up to their necks in thieving, corruption and scummery.

    The real “lefty solution” would be for the council to work their own scam as they so often have. But lots of cash from corporate socialist hanger-on “businessmen” mean doing deals with them is much more lucrative for the louche leftists than just floating their own boat.

    It is akin to the difference between Russia then and now. Old-style soviet party scum used to get better food and little luxuries at the GUM stores in Russia. Modern oligarchs do much better co-operating with corporate socialist crooks.

    You are also adrift in time. The east midlands Gulags have not yet been built. If the infestation of socialism in this nation can be countered they may yet be consigned to the dustbin of unrealised possibilities.

  24. Shkreli has a face that’s near as punchable as Murphy’s, but nabbing him now does look fishy.

    Here in CR, they walk the accused into court, but faces are covered. It doesn’t matter if you’re a fraudster or someone who’s just machine-gunned a bus full of orphans: if your face is shown on TV before or during a trial the defence will go ballistic and so will the judge.

  25. MR x You comments about Northampton corruption are so perverted and ignorant that they are beyond mockery . I feel sorry for all the other right-wing morons on here having you on their side .
    PS The British coal industry disappeared today because of a downward dip in global coal prices: the steel industry went last month for the same global reason. Never mind good old Uncle Tim (with no degree in Economics) says the glory of globalised trade is that we can buy cheap goods abroad ,because of their lower wages, mere job losses and the disappearance of strategic industries overnight in the UK is a detail that the public school /high Tory anarchists well understand but have not worked out how to deal with quite yet.

  26. So Much For Subtlety

    Agammamon – “So you, me, some dickish CEO get perp-walked. Leland Ye is arrested with no perp-walk. The more powerful have their attorneys arrange a time for them to turn themselves in.”

    They can’t perp walk everyone. But they do perp-walk the powerful. They did to DSK. When all his fellow French intellectuals (especially if they were Leftists who shared a religious origin with him) complained because he was treated like an ordinary person.

    I think the two main reasons this one gets walked is because 1. he made them look stupid and they want the public to see what they think is justice being one and because 2. he is not Black. As Tom Wolfe said in the brilliantly foresightful (is that a word?) Bonfire of the Vanities even the police get sick of the endless stream of non-White faces. When they arrest a rich White guy, everyone is going to know.

  27. Guess Who: “MR x You comments about Northampton corruption are so perverted and ignorant that they are beyond mockery .”

    Already told you I don’t care about whichever bit of corruption is going on there and it is irrelevant to the point I made. Merely because some ex-public schoolboy is up to dirty tricks–you say–doesn’t mean that leftist pricks aren’t up to the same all over the UK. They are.

    ” I feel sorry for all the other right-wing morons on here having you on their side .”

    Spare us your pity –we have no need of it. Save it for the millions your creed has so far despatched. And their grieving relatives.

    ” PS The British coal industry disappeared today because of a downward dip in global coal prices: the steel industry went last month for the same global reason. Never mind good old Uncle Tim (with no degree in Economics) says the glory of globalised trade is that we can buy cheap goods abroad ,because of their lower wages, mere job losses and the disappearance of strategic industries overnight in the UK is a detail that the public school /high Tory anarchists well understand but have not worked out how to deal with quite yet.”

    Glad to see you becoming frazzled Reedy. Although the stress of being bested in blog threads doesn’t really compare with that of being murdered by socialism it is a start.

  28. Mr X Being ,as I have suddenly realised, quite patriotic and considering the post-war British mixed economy state a clever attempt to get the best of both worlds politically which worked in my youth with, for instance a huge aircraft industry developing the Whittle engine (which we had to give the Americans to pay for war materiel ), a massive homebuilding programme with 20+ New Towns, a motorway network, full employment and “You never had it so good from” Harold Macmillan I find your depictions of this country as overtaken by Stalinism offensive.
    Your rants are not sane.
    Please recognise the elephant in the room: the Americans have been bent on world domination , by warfare if necessary since before entering WW2 which they used to degrade other world players like Britain (Read Enoch Powell on the subject, reliable on this at least).Perhaps you would care to explain how bombing Vietnam for years on end was any better than the things Stalin was accused of. BTW Nixon also ruined the American economy by the Vietnam War, unilaterally ending the Bretton Woods International Payments system by gold (Read up “Nixon shock” ) and so ushered in uncontrolled world inflation of floating fiat currencies which has been going on ever since and blamed by moronic right -wing cunts on the Unions (which Powell defended as ” innocent as new-born lambs”).
    Don’t bother to reply: you don’t know enough.

  29. However, there is also one convention they have that should be much admired; no dock. The accused sits with their lawyer, specifically because the dock is a psychological implication of inequality in the courtroom, implying guilt. They were done away with a long while ago, and we should follow the Americans in this, especially in this age where some old duffer who might have touched some boobs 40 years ago finds himself in a glass box, isolated from the room and his legal counsel, etc.

    Agreed. I remember one of the UK’s law bloggers wrote something about the designs of some UK courtrooms – their architecture seemingly intended to make the defendant look guilty. There have been a few studies of mock juries; it seems that mock juries are more likely to convict a defendant if he is in a dock than if he is at a bar table; and more likely to convict a defendant in a glass dock than a wooden dock.

  30. “Mr X Being ,as I have suddenly realised, quite patriotic and considering the post-war British mixed economy state a clever attempt to get the best of both worlds politically which worked in my youth with, for instance a huge aircraft industry developing the Whittle engine (which we had to give the Americans to pay for war materiel ), a massive homebuilding programme with 20+ New Towns, a motorway network, full employment and “You never had it so good from” Harold Macmillan I find your depictions of this country as overtaken by Stalinism offensive.”

    Socialism often parasites on structures set up by the market previously. And thus appears as if it is “working” for a while. It never lasts and it didn’t. The huge failure of nationalised industries, inflation, etc,etc put paid to your post war “paradise” Reedy and that is that. All your huffing and puffing and leftist Land Tax twaddle have no chance of bringing those days back. And economically who would want to?.

    You are getting mixed up between economics and your own personal nostalgia. I can understand that –I often wish to be young again–and for the days when there was something on the telly that wasn’t a repeat or LCD soap or soap-influenced shite. When leftist moronism wasn’t spewed out everywhere like an epidemic of up-sicking dossers on every street corner.

    Well tough shit to us both. The moving finger writes and having writ moves on and you get what you get and that is it.

    “Your rants are not sane.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWTKh0WXgrg

    “Please recognise the elephant in the room: the Americans have been bent on world domination , by warfare if necessary since before entering WW2 which they used to degrade other world players like Britain (Read Enoch Powell on the subject, reliable on this at least).Perhaps you would care to explain how bombing Vietnam for years on end was any better than the things Stalin was accused of. BTW Nixon also ruined the American economy by the Vietnam War, unilaterally ending the Bretton Woods International Payments system by gold (Read up “Nixon shock” ) and so ushered in uncontrolled world inflation of floating fiat currencies which has been going on ever since and blamed by moronic right -wing cunts on the Unions (which Powell defended as ” innocent as new-born lambs”).”

    Did anything about my “rants” give you the impression that I was an admirer of the U S Federal tyranny’s brand of corporate socialist bungling evil ?

    Cos if it did your powers of literacy are as wanting as your power of logical thought.

    “Don’t bother to reply: you don’t know enough.”

    That would be nice for you but you don’t get off so easy.

  31. Mr X The gift that keeps on giving: now the US is a tyrannous brand of corporate socialism.! And he regards himself as foursquare representative of his fellow anti-socialists on here. (Note his “Spare us your pity-we have no need it” above :should read “Spare them your attempts to enlist them in your out of control fantasies”

  32. Reedy: Incredulity on being presented with concepts outside your very limited self-imposed mental box is not an argument.

    I have no doubt you hate me the most as I have the least tolerance for your leftist shite. However “out-of-control” you claim my “fantasies” are–they don’t have a massive body count attached to them–which is more than can be said for those of you and your leftist buddies.

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