Usual sodding nonsense

Spot the switch in this:

Professor Nordstrom, whose study is published in the International Journal of Epidemiology, said: ‘Unfit normal-weight individuals had a 30 per cent lower risk of death from any cause than fit obese individuals.
‘Low aerobic fitness in late adolescence is associated with an increased risk of early death.
‘Furthermore, the risk of early death was higher in fit obese individuals than unfit normal weight individuals.’
He said the findings contradicted the belief that ‘obese individuals can fully compensate mortality risk by being physically fit’.
Professor Nordstrom said that being slim – having a low body mass index (BMI), a measure of obesity – was more crucial in preventing early death than keeping fit.
‘These results suggest that low BMI early in life is more important than high physical fitness, with regard to reducing the risk of early death.’ he added.
Around two-thirds of adults in Britain are overweight or obese, and the UK’s rates are amongst the worst in Europe.

Yes, that’s right. The finding is about obesity. And then they tack “overweight” onto it.

21 thoughts on “Usual sodding nonsense”

  1. So Much For Subtlety

    ‘Furthermore, the risk of early death was higher in fit obese individuals than unfit normal weight individuals.’

    If I had to guess at what they have really found, I would assume they have shown illegal steroids kill

  2. Since most people tend to start out thin anyway what was the point of their tripe?

    Being obese is not good for you–do they need to waste more cash on studying that?

  3. Aren’t the mildly overweight (BMI of 26 – 27) statistically the longest-lived?

    Of course, they weren’t “overweight” until the zealots moved the goalposts a few years ago.

  4. View from the Solent

    ” ‘Unfit normal-weight individuals had a 30 per cent lower risk of death from any cause than fit obese individuals.”

    So an unfit normal-weight individual has a 30% chance of living forever?

  5. fit obese individual is an oxymoron.
    Fit individual with an above-average BMI would include the All Blacks pack. Why don’t you call them “obese” to their face Professor Nordstrom?

  6. “Aren’t the mildly overweight (BMI of 26 – 27) statistically the longest-lived?”

    I’ve seen this quoted a lot, but I’ve also seen some possible explanations of it: that those dying of eg cancer have lost lots of weight.

    I don’t know if that is enough to skew the figures though.

  7. I’m sure most studies compensate for those dying of serious illness.

    It is now standard to refer to the “overweight and obese” figure when discussing obesity. At least they were ‘honest’ enough to add the full description. I have seen and read politicians describing two thirds of the population as ‘obese’.

  8. @ GlenDorran
    That’s probably because the average height has increased so the *normal* aka “healthy” BMI range should also have increased. The idiots who talk about BMI expect mass to be proportional to square of the radius instead of the cube. I understand that M. Quetelet used weight divided by height to the power 2.5 because taller people are not on average quite as broad in proportion to height as shorter people, but that seems to be too difficult for the self-appointed guardians of our health.

  9. @john77

    Interesting.

    Next time I’m having a beer with our longevity experts I’ll ask them about this. It’ll be interesting to know if there are any ratings adjustments they use that are based on weight alone.

  10. “These results suggest that low BMI early in life is more important than high physical fitness”

    So if you were a chubby kid you’re fucked anyway and all the gym work in your 20s and 30s is wasted?

    What worries me, and I’m speaking as a fat fucker, is the % of my life I have wasted reading badly reported scare stories about dubious medical research.

  11. @ MC
    No, no and no again. What all these statistics show are AVERAGES. There are 60+ million people in the UK and each of us is an individual.
    More fat people than lean people will die relatively young because they don’t look after themselves, some will die relatively young because they have inherited problems, some skinny people will die young because they have inherited problems.
    If we are using statistics, there is no certainty, just probabilities and/or estimates based on historic frequencies.
    It is near-impossible to identify how much “early mortality” is due to having a high BMI per se and how much is because the individual isn’t looking after him/herself.
    I shouldn’t particularly go in for gym work which tends to be artificial – just frequent (not necessarily regular, though that makes it easier) light exercise.

  12. My grandmother had 6 brothers, at the one extreme one was a tea totaller, never smoked, married (which apparently increases life span), good office job, liked walking etc. and died aged 45 of cancer.

    At the other end the black sheep of the family joined merchant navy as a teen, drunk excessively, never married, at age 70 was still smoking 40-50 a day and would snap the filter off if he couldn’t get unfiltered cigarettes, lived to 78

    Averages are a wonderful thing

  13. ‘They found that men who were fit were generally far less likely to die than if they were inactive.’

    Okay, I think I’ve identified the problem.

  14. Bloke in North Dorset

    “I have seen and read politicians describing two thirds of the population as ‘obese’.”

    Recency bias from their Westminster bubble. I give as evidence: from the party the would nanny us the most – Tom Watson and Diane Abbot and from the not very LibDems Lord Rennard. And just to be an equal opportunities hater of hypocrites Eric Pickles and the oily fish can be be added to the list.

  15. So Much For Subtlety

    Bloke in North Dorset – “I give as evidence: from the party the would nanny us the most – Tom Watson and Diane Abbot and from the not very LibDems Lord Rennard. And just to be an equal opportunities hater of hypocrites Eric Pickles and the oily fish can be be added to the list.”

    Hmmm, that gives me an idea for a One Step Plan to making the UK Great once more – ban fatties from Parliament. They may have given us Churchill, but what decent fatties have their been lately?

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