EU negotiation is such fun, isn’t it?

Brussels on Wednesday threatened to stop Britain deporting migrants unless it agreed to accept “quotas” of migrants, something which could see the UK forced to admit 90,000 refugees.
If Britain refuses to accept the quota, the EU has said the UK will no longer be able to use the Dublin Regulation – the rule which states that migrants must seek asylum in the first European country they arrive – to deport foreigners illegally entering the country.

Yes, yes, we know it’s settled law, we also know that’s how international law works. But bugger that, shut up and do what we tell you.

I know we’re all supposed to be a bit more intellectual about this, meant to think things through, consider carefully the pros and cons of membership and so on. But seriously folks, fuck’em, sideways and the horse they rode in on. Let’s leave.

18 thoughts on “EU negotiation is such fun, isn’t it?”

  1. The UK electorate is always inclined to opt for the status quo, but the Euro and migration crises have the potential to make staying in look like the more risky option. So the upcoming referendum is the chance of a lifetime, yet the out campaign is hopelessly disunited.

  2. Well, that’s logical. In order to be allowed to continue removing migrants, you have to import more migrants.

    And people who oppose the EU are the swivel-eyed loons, right?

  3. And the moment it doesn’t suit the political objectives, laws and treaties go out the window.

    And yet the HRA and the ECHR are invulnerable?



  4. This sibling reunion is going to get more than 10X more than 90,000.
    Get your brothers and sisters over, send them back for the arranged marriage, get the in-laws over… Rinse and repeat. Pretty soon there’d be no one left in Shitholistan.

  5. And I don’t suppose the frogs will be happy to depopulate the Mahgreb to add more cultural enrichment to Marseille and Lille either.

  6. I’m not quite sure what Tim means. The Dublin Regulation clearly isn’t working. Do we seriously believe that Greece (for example) should, or indeed can, shoulder such a disproportionate amount of immigration into the EU?

    Obviously the rules need to be revisited.

    Or is this just another anti-immigrant rant?

  7. Chrum Rincewind: The Dublin Regulation clearly isn’t working

    But surely nobody here says that it is working. It’s the EU saying the UK cannot invoke [something that isn’t working] unless it accepts a chunk of Mrs Merkel’s bloomers.

    That’s some offer!

  8. Y’know.. the most worrying thing is that the UK stepping out would only be another symptom of the real problem: Hell, Handbasket. Pretty fast at the moment as well.
    It wouldn’t solve a bloody thing, and only serve to speed up the rather nasty “civil war” sentiments that’s brewing everywhere at the moment.
    Interesting Times.. they be here now…

  9. @ Churm Rincewind
    The Dublin regulation works fine when it is applied.
    It works fine for genuine refugees who are fleeing horrors who are accpted by the first safe state that they reach
    Economic migrants, traversing several poor countries seeking the streets paved with gold in London don’t want Dublin rules.
    Yes, Greece should shoulder the burden, because it has much more spare space than the UK and a better climate; it also is less attractive to economic migrants so it will get all the refugees but fewer economic migrants if the trail stops in Greece.
    The rest of EU could send some cash plus food plus tents and spare clothes to Greece.
    For boat people read “southern Italy” for Greece.
    Do you really think sub-zero temperatureand pork sausages are the best solution for Syrian refugees?

  10. Do we seriously believe that Greece (for example) should, or indeed can, shoulder such a disproportionate amount of immigration into the EU?

    Well, yes, actually.

    If Greece was expected to deal with the problem, then the Greeks would be more likely to police their borders. That doesn’t mean the Greeks can’t be assisted, but it should remain their problem.

    It’s back to incentives again.

  11. Bloke in Wales,

    Not really. The problem for Greece right now is that lots (not all) of those who land there are genuine refugees. Should Greece be expected to keep all of them? I don’t know. But if I were Greek, I might not try that hard to stop people leaving, particularly as that’s what they want to do.

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