Ever so slightly weird

So I scribble a piece for Forbes:

Nigel Farage Is Right, Carwyn Jones Wrong: Leaving The EU Would Make No Difference To UK Job Numbers

And a couple of hours later I get a Ukip email quoting me back at myself.

Yes, yes, I know, I am writing for the press, I should expect press operations to send out supporting quotes from the press and all of that. It’s just ever so slightly odd. Still not used to it.

There are actually people out there reading this stuff? Seriously?

And, again, yes, I know, but it’s still odd.

13 thoughts on “Ever so slightly weird”

  1. I’d love to read it but Forbes insists that I turn my ad-blocker off before I can get into the site… So fuck ’em.

  2. pogo (and purely for info for others)

    IE fully engaged (JS etc), but with a hosts file rather than a blocker (same effect), and I get what you get.

    Opera (early version 11.64), with everything switched off (cookies the lot) except only for JS, and it loads fine (and quickly) – and also not even the 3 second delay or whatever you usually get with all the fancy toys switched on…

  3. Tim,

    “The first minister replied by saying membership of both unions – the UK and the EU – was vital to Welsh prosperity.
    Claiming 200,000 jobs in Wales relied on EU trade…

    And Jones’ point here is about trade: if we cannot export to the EU tariff free then all those jobs will be lost.”

    Ignoring your substitution bit for a second, his argument is wrong anyway? ‘Some’ might be lost if big tariffs kicked in”? Ie his 200K was the ‘total’ number that depended on EU trade.

    Interestingly, if we import more cars that we export, and big tariffs are then put in place both ways, which reduce the number of new cars that cross borders, the net effect may be to help those manufacturers based in the UK, rather than hinder them (ignoring marque differences obviously), as Brits will still want to buy cars?

    Merkel would be barking to allow any form of car tariffs, and which would influence other stuff…

  4. “This is something that the out campaign is going to have to be careful about: don’t ever think that the general public has quite the same enthusiasm as those who actually turn up to debates”

    The same goes for all blogs online.

  5. The ‘Leave’ side are already losing the debate by allowing it to be framed in terms of “What happens if we leave?” the default position being membership of the EU. Take the true default postion; a sovereign nation deciding what trains to sign and what international groupings to belong in, and the question becomes “Why should we be in the EU?”. A very different picture emerges.

  6. Off topic, could Ricky Gervais be the only person in the public eye not willing to be cowed by a baying mob of terminally offended SJWs

    “Viewer: I’m offended by a joke you made.
    Me: So?
    Viewer: You gonna apologise?
    Me: No.
    Viewer: Then I won’t watch you again.
    Me: Correct

    You have every right to be offended. Just don’t cry when no one cares.”

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a celeb take on the mob so well without giving in and apologising.

  7. Being better than Carwyn Jones isn’t much of an achievement though is it.
    Interesting that he conflated the EU position with being part of the U.K. though, maybe he’s thinking an independent Wales as part of the EU would be better off than as part of the U.K., depending on EU funding formulas he might have a point.

  8. your comments on profits as a % of US GDP overlooked at least two things. the true picture is even worse.

    1. US GDP is GREATER than US GDP and US GNI.

    2. supposing the reverse were true and GDP was greater than GNI, this profits from abroad must sum to 0 for the whole world.

    and, in fact, MORE income is taken from the US than is remitted to it.

    but you’re a brit so one expects you to defend the english speaking peoples who have single handedly ruined their own countries and would ruin the whole world if they could.

    thatcher’s clit is so yummy.

  9. Tim, I for one have been reading your work since the excellent ElReg pieces about rare earths. While I don’t always agree with everything it is refreshing to find well written, and more importantly, logical articles in this world of 140 character sound bites.

    For the referenced article I completely disagree with your argument that leaving the EU would have no effect on jobs. If there were to be a Brexit then tariff levels will change. Some UK industries would see a dramatic drop in exports as the added costs to sell to the continent would make their products less desirable. On the other hand as import costs rise UK industries would have an easier time competing at home. Depending on what levels various tariffs would be set at British employment could go up, down, or stay the same but the jobs people actually work will change.

    It is in the second to last paragraph that I completely lose your reasoning. Stating “trade has no impact at all on the number of jobs in any particular economy.” makes no sense to me. What is obvious to me is that any nation that has a overall trade surplus will have more opportunities for jobs than one with a deficit. Consumers in the deficit nation are paying the costs* for the jobs in the surplus nation.

    If I have missed something obvious in my reasoning please let me know. Until that time I will assume that you were asked for a piece on Farage/Jones of x number of words and simply overstated due to lack of space.

    *The cost of the jobs will of course vary from country to country. Additional cost variants include, but are not limited to, environmental laws, workplace safety, transportation, and resource availability.

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