Just not gonna work

The Schengen system of free movement could be suspended for two years under emergency measures to be discussed by European ministers on Monday, as the French Prime Minister warned the crisis could bring down the entire European Union.
Manuel Valls said that the “very idea of Europe” will be torn apart until the flows of migrants expected to surge in spring are turned away.
On Monday, interior ministers from the EU will meet in Amsterdam to discuss emergency measures to allow states to reintroduce national border controls for two years.

They haven’t got the border posts, haven’t got the people, haven’t even got markets of the border (I’ve cycled over the German Czech border and not even noted I’ve done so).

What this actually means is that anyone looking a little dark can and will be stopped and asked for “their papers”.

20 thoughts on “Just not gonna work”

  1. Quite, I cycled from the Netherlands in to Belgium. It was a field and then another field, if I had been able to understand them I might have noted the cows had a different accent, other than that the only thing to tell me there was a difference was my Garmin.

  2. I never understood the point. Crossing from Switzerland to France was generally a fat bloke in a chair with a Gitanes hanging from his mouth waving people through. You could find immigration stopping cars, but when they did, it was to open up every car because of a suspicion.

  3. So they’re going to relocate the guys with water cannon from Calais to the Swiss border. Can’t wait.

  4. I’m trying to work out what’s going to happen when I cross the road from Armentiers in France to Le Bizet in Belgium to buy fags at the tabac. And then there’s the parking. Do my rear seat passengers need a passport to get out the offside door rather than the near? Is the g/f, in the front, abroad or am I?

  5. Christ. It’s even more complicated. She’s not an EU national. Does she need a visa to lean over & give me a kiss on the cheek? What does she put on her application form against “reason for visit”? Business or tourism?

  6. What Magnusw says. If even poor Hungary can manage to build a fence in no time, I’m sure the rest of Europe could manage the same. Alas the body is willing but the mind is weak.

    More likely we’ll see a return to two-speed Europe. Leave Greece outside Shengen and put border controls along the old iron curtain. Eventually Italy and/or the Iberian peninsula might have to be cut off too; but they already have formidable natural barriers with their neighbours.

  7. Too late now.

    This is a direct consequence of decades of immigrationist fanatics Godwinising everyone who objected to the Culturally Enriched Utopia they declared they were determined to build.

    You know why the Western Roman Empire fell? Germanic tribes, crossing the border as refugees. Our civilisation exists because our ancestors (counting “our” as those awful white Northern European racist bastards) destroyed the previous, Roman, civilisation, and did so simply by migration pressure.

    There is a lesson in this. You defend your borders or you cease to exist.

  8. It’s almost impossible to effectively close a land border. The Israelis are currently giving it a try, with mixed success, and the USSR managed it for a while – but I can’t see the EU planting minefields and deploying tens of thousands of border guards with orders to shoot to kill.

  9. I can’t see the EU planting minefields and deploying tens of thousands of border guards with orders to shoot to kill.

    Give ’em a few years. When anyone can build a genetically-engineered killer virus in their garage, no-one’s going to support ‘open borders’ any more.

  10. “haven’t even got markets of the border”

    Sounds like an Adam Smith Institute study waiting to happen.

  11. When anyone can build a genetically-engineered killer virus in their garage, none of the crims are going to need ‘open borders’ any more.

  12. It’s almost impossible to effectively close a land border.

    You wouldn’t need to. Remove the incentives to enter, and punish a handful ludicrously harshly. The rest will get the message.

  13. When anyone can build a genetically-engineered killer virus in their garage, none of the crims are going to need ‘open borders’ any more.

    Lot harder to murder everyone when your garage is thousands of miles away.

    But, to be honest, I’m not really expecting to see walls on national levels. I suspect we’re heading to a future of city states, at the largest, and probably communities smaller than that.

  14. So Much For Subtlety

    Edward M. Grant – “But, to be honest, I’m not really expecting to see walls on national levels. I suspect we’re heading to a future of city states, at the largest, and probably communities smaller than that.”

    In other words, Whites will be living in ghettos while the mobs rages outside. Ever smaller ghettos.

    So the cultural enrichment continues apace:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3413809/The-murder-capital-Britain-revealed-sleepy-Lincolnshire-town-home-highest-increase-migrants-country.html

    And this is our future:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-3412616/How-Labour-turned-London-foreign-city.html

    The Chilterns can’t be that far behind.

  15. Ian B is pungent and forthright as usual but his anger is misplaced.The tides of migration were this time set off by the Americans arming the mujahaddin in Afghanistan to push out the Soviets.Unfortunately, so successful were they that a whole jihadi movement sprang into existence which pushed millions of people from the Middle East into Europe .In all international crises Cherchez les Americains.(Europe would be in less of an economic mess had not the Americans persisted with their own jihad against anything Socialist or even public sector and detached Poland etc from the Soviet bloc for Europe to sort out when the EU was founded on the principle that members wage levels should be roughly the same to start with.And no import/export from a totally self contained system by the by the way!)

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