Memo from the booze addled

And a report by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice) advised middle-aged people there is “no safe level of alcohol consumption”.
It says the same health benefits can be more easily achieved with exercise and healthy eating.

So there are no health benefits to booze but the same health benefits can be achieve by other means.

Okeeeeey Dokeeeeey

26 thoughts on “Memo from the booze addled”

  1. So Much For Subtlety

    It says the same health benefits can be more easily achieved with exercise and healthy eating.

    That is funny because I find that achieving a glass of wine while on the couch watching the idiot box is much more easily achieved that any level of moderate exercise. Healthy eating I am not sure about as I am maintaining that a Hawaiian pizza is about the healthiest option out there and I can eat one of those while playing Doom without any problems. However their mileage may vary.

  2. View from the Solent

    “.. drinking just a small amount may in fact increase the risk of some cancers. ”

    “It says the same health benefits can be more easily achieved with exercise and healthy eating. ”

    Exercise and ‘healthy eating’ may increase the risk of some cancers.
    Might as well stick to beer and chips then.

  3. No one believes them anymore except for the media.

    Slightly congruous link halfway through that pile of crap: “black pudding hailed as new superfood”.

    We are living in an alternate reality.

  4. Notice how the “settled science” in this area doesn’t change slightly over the years but instead violently changes direction almost 180 degrees every ten years or so. It suggests that they haven’t got a fucking clue.

    Also, isn’t drinking red wine part of that fabled ‘Meditteranean diet”? How do they explain that away?

  5. So Much For Subtlety

    Ted S. – “They never talk about the quality of life benefits of being left the fuck alone.”

    +1 Comment of the week.

    Rob – “Also, isn’t drinking red wine part of that fabled ‘Meditteranean diet”? How do they explain that away?”

    Perhaps Adultery is good for you?

  6. Rob, I thought the Med diet was also all about the herby bits and olive oil and stuff? (As well as red wine obviously…)

    A recent study by University College London found patients who gave up for four weeks saw benefits for their liver function, blood pressure and cholesterol levels and were also at lower risk of developing diabetes and liver disease.

    Four weeks? So they did a study where people abstained from alcohol for just four weeks, but the study was then long enough to be able to measure the risk of developing diabetes etc?

    Also, and maybe I’m playing fast and loose with their definition of “safe” here, but I thought we knew (for sure) that teetotallers on average die younger than drinkers?

  7. SMFS

    “Perhaps Adultery is good for you?”

    Not sure about that. If I tried it and got found out I’m pretty sure I’d have my scrotum ripped off.

  8. The evidence is that alcohol consumption carries an increased cancer risk roughly proportional to how much you drink, but is protective against heart disease at low doses.

    This guidance is saying that the same protection against heart disease can be achieved through diet and exercise.

  9. “This guidance is saying that the same protection against heart disease can be achieved through diet and exercise.”

    It said “more easily” achieved! Unless we are talking about a diet than involves some very light arm exercise, I’ll need some convincing!

  10. And if you diet exercise and drink red wine then you gain extra protection!

    Or not depending on luck or fate.

    Lying leftist shite all of it.

  11. The only thing this whole lot of bollocks proves is….. there is no safe level of Government, it’s all bad for you.

  12. Ian Reid is correct. You know your government has become too big if it has a National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence.

    ‘If we drink, we will die.
    If we don’t drink, we will die.
    We may as well drink!’ – Taras Bulba

    Never trust a report that gives chances in percent. If it doesn’t give actual numbers, quit reading. E.g., if the chance of getting a specific cancer is .01, and drinking raises the chances 10X, to .1, so what?

  13. SJW: “The point is that if your risk of heart disease is low enough, thanks to healthy diet and exercise, the additional protection offered by moderate alcohol consumption becomes negligible.”

    Presupposes that your risk of death from heart disease is in your control.

    It ain’t.

    You might have some marginal effect–altho not by following half of their horseshit fads. Cholesterol, unsaturated fats etc–all garbage.

    The fact is you can do everything you can and still hit the pavement dead at any age.

    The health propaganda is the bullshit left version of the old advertising ploy:

    “Death!!!–and Life Insurance (or pseudo-puritan tripe) offers protection!!”

  14. “The point is that if your risk of heart disease is low enough, thanks to healthy diet and exercise”: oh balls. Your chance is low because heart disease has behaved much like an infectious disease, appearing virtually out of nowhere in the twenties, peaking in the sixties, and declining enormously since.

  15. Looks to me like the chairwarmers in that august institution felt a need to upstage the WHO, spun the magic eight-ball for a subject , and simply reversed opinion, possibly trying to get a lift on the short-but-steady Healthy Living craze you get after the Holidays each year.

    Ah well bureaucrats have to prove they’re “doing” something once or twice each year…
    Well Done chaps! Now hand me my bacon bap, and go back being Important somewhere else.

  16. Even discussing “health benefits” of alcohol concedes grounds to the Prohibitionists in public health. I drink because I enjoy it, and it is my business to do so. The risks of moderate consumption are next to negligible and would affect me very late in life anyway.

    Apart from Puritan lemon-suckers, who leads a life of complete abstinence to eke out a handful of years at the end of your life when your body is fucked anyway? Why is this considered an ideal by our ruling classes?

  17. The main difference between modern Puritans and the Puritans of the past is that the former have managed to convince themselves and others that they are ‘progressive’ and forward-looking.

    Yoke yourself to fashionable causes like anti-corporatism and political correctness and you can portray every encroachment on personal liberty as a principled stand for the vulnerable.

  18. @Rob, excellent point. The cliché of putting the world to rights over a few pints exists because it’s broadly true.
    You can’t achieve the same over a salad and 20 min on the treadmill.

  19. So Much For Subtlety

    Rob – “Who drinks alcohol for “health protection” benefits?”

    I know people who might be fairly described as fat middle aged White British males whose doctors told them to drink at least one glass of red wine a day.

    Nice to see not all doctors are insane.

  20. In general the teetotalers I know over here vote for for the conservatives so I’d prefer if in the future we use anything but lefty shyte.

    I recall as a child egomaniacs advised that butter was bad for you. My parents bought into it and we always had margarine with plenty of trans-fats. Luckily I tasted something was off(just like skim milk) and just stopped eating it until I was old enough to buy my own groceries. Currently it is believed that those trans fats are far worse than butter so I feel vindicated.

    The morale of the story is don’t listen to arsehats that want to control you no matter what their political views. If something doesn’t taste right that just might be our body’s way of telling us it’s not the best for us. Similarly if you drink to the extent that you have a hangover the next day it was too much but a drink or two won’t harm you nearly as much as the stress these loons cause.

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