The vibrancy of the English civilisation

Jihadi John, he had a bomb dropped on his head……

One version of the lyrics, chorus only:

Jihadi John
He’s fucking dead
He had a bomb
Dropped on his head

Jihadi John
He’s fucking dead
He had a bomb
Dropped on his head

One version of one verse:

Jihadi John he’s fucking dead,
had a bomb dropped on his head,
Bacary Sagna he plays at the back,
they tried to kill him in the Paris attack,
he said fuck off and he made a bomb,
and dropped the fucker on Jihadi John.

That is one part of the real England. Perhaps a subculture these days but very much part of that original essence. In the same manner that the childhood games, playground games, persist. It’s not that parents teach children, nor teachers, to play Ring o’ Roses, it’s that the 6 year olds teach the 5 year olds each and every year and so it has been going for centuries. That these are football fans is almost incidental. Rugby players (rather than fans) have their own rich vein of such songs. This is about young men being, well, young Englishmen. Ribald, scatalogical, drunk, shouting along with their mates. You could imagine Falstaff and mates doing this.

Exactly the same scummy bastards that slaughtered the French at Agincourt, went over the top at the Somme and populated much of what is now the English speaking world. You know, the backbone of the nation, the essence of it.

One of the reasons all that happened was these people. Dunno about you but if I saw them heaving over the horizon waving pikes and mattocks I’d be submitting to the Great She Elephant pretty quickly too.

Guess where the infantry comes from today?

29 thoughts on “The vibrancy of the English civilisation”

  1. Not for much longer:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/football-fan-claims-hundreds-chanted-7097059

    ‘Ramon Mohamed, a Sheffield United season ticket holder, was at Bramall Lane for the match on 28 December when, he claims, hundreds of fellow home fans began to sing the distasteful chant.

    “It was more than just five or 10 fans it was more like a few hundred”, Mohamed said. “I could make out they were singing ‘you’re just a town full of ISIS’ towards the Bradford fans.

    “I was disgusted, you cannot compare a whole town to a murderous fanatical cult that has nothing to do with Islam.”…’

  2. So Much For Subtlety

    You know, the backbone of the nation, the essence of it.

    The backbone that our rulers hate and want to replace with the lumpenproletariat of African, the West and East Indies.

    A requiem for a dying nation.

  3. The same “backbone” that the bourgeoisie despise. It is that despite which has fueled Progressivism since the 19th century, and hence the current state of things, including their deliberate replacement.

  4. SMFS-

    That’s a bit rich coming from you, considering you share the view that there are only two types of people- the good, moral middle class and the scum.

  5. So Much For Subtlety

    Ian B – “That’s a bit rich coming from you, considering you share the view that there are only two types of people- the good, moral middle class and the scum.”

    I have never confined the good to the middle class. The respectable poor have always been there. Fewer now of course.

  6. There was a statement from some Cabinet Minister (can’t be bothered to look it up) a couple of days ago about how confiscation of passports would only be used in extreme circumstances and would be a very limited number. She was of course referring to anti-terror actions. There will be a whole host of people come June who have to hand in their passports at a police station as they do every time England play football away. Their crime can be as little as being drunk and disorderly in a football stadium. They should of course be appropriately punished for that. But the contrast is telling.

    Similarly last night I had a rank of policemen and women staring at me (and about 700 others who had foolishly done a 12 hour round trip into Wales) including having a video camera pointed at us for 90 minutes. If a protest march had that sort of policing when nothing was happening (and nothing did happen in the stands – on the pitch we won 2-4) there would be uproar from the usual suspects.

  7. The quote normally attributed to the Duke of Wellington about his infantry is, not “the scum of the earth” one but

    I don’t know what effect these men will have on the enemy, but by God, they terrify me

  8. So, whilst these young working class lads are singing songs celebrating Jihadi John’s demise, Jeremy Corbyn is expressing concern about the lack of due process applied.

    My Tory heart leaps for joy.

  9. It was bad timing for soccer hooligans to kick off the violence when they did.

    Had they waited until now, then we would have politicians from all parties queuing up to tell the rest of us that “those aren’t real soccer fans” while throwing millions of pounds at Millwall and Arsenal and the rest.

  10. Ian B and SMFS (if they can ever stop arguing with each other – splitters) have it right.

    A Guardian reader looking at these blokes will loathe them totally. They’d much prefer Mr Ahmed and his 4 wives on benefits.

  11. Not quite on topic, but can we have a rousing cheer that Shami
    Chakwhateverthefvck is stepping down from Liberty

  12. “A Guardian reader looking at these blokes will loathe them totally. They’d much prefer Mr Ahmed and his 4 wives on benefits.”

    They would prefer them, but only in theory. In reality they would find equally unbearable, and neither would be invited to the Guardianista’s dinner party (or, for a younger Guardian reader, out to a hipster eatery).

  13. I have to say this little video cheers my heart as well.

    And how remarkable it is that, after 30 odd years of progressive education, a liberal-soaked media, and almost every single comedian, movie star, or musician mouthing the platitudes of progressivism, the bulk of the British population still think like this.

    I live in London (but hail from the north). Everyone I know down here is a progressive, and I mean everyone who has money power or influence.

    But over Christmas I was in the North and was refreshed to see large numbers of young men and women who were clearly immune to the progressive virus.

    I don’t know how they managed to get to the education system. But there it is. They did.

  14. …can we have a rousing cheer that Shami Chakwhateverthefvck is stepping down from Liberty.

    Not until we know what she intends to do next.

  15. Sadly, the institutions – such as marriage, family, chapel/church, the WEA – that guided these young fellows from an exuberant youth to being solid citizens with jobs and families have been sapped of vitality by numerous decadent influences – such as welfarism, feminism, socialism, TV and Hollywood. Fifty years ago (or less), these young men could be expected to acquire a trade or skill, or join the armed forces, then marry and have children, perhaps cultivate an allotment, perhaps attend chapel, perhaps sing in a choir/play in a band, even acquire a set of Dickens’ novels for the sitting room. Today, though, too many will drift into a life of drugs and/or petty crime, never marry or establish a family (though they will sire several children by different women), never hold down a job for long or acquire a skill or trade, and so increase the numbers of the underclass.

  16. Bloke in North Dorset

    “Rugby players (rather than fans) have their own rich vein of such songs.”

    Indeed, and great fun they are, especially when accompanied by drinking games.

    The Army has (had?) their own inventive set as well and I wouldn’t be surprised if the original of this chant started in the Army. (I’m reminded of the famous Bennies/Stills episode after the Falklands war.)

  17. “And how remarkable it is that, after 30 odd years of progressive education, a liberal-soaked media, and almost every single comedian, movie star, or musician mouthing the platitudes of progressivism, the bulk of the British population still think like this.”

    +1

  18. @Andrew M: good and pertinent question!

    But: “It’s not that parents teach children, nor teachers, to play Ring o’ Roses”

    Indeed not; it’s the grandparents. And now we have to play it about every fifteen minutes: toddlers can be astonishingly persistent and repetitive!

  19. @Stuck-Record: they got through the education system by not paying attention to anything much and leaving as soon as they could. And the left, of course, made sure that was possible, even encouraged it. Ha Ha.

    Child-centred education clearly has an unexpected advantage – the brainwashing doesn’t work either. Rejoice!

  20. Tim, you’re wrong about Agincourt – it was the longbowmen who slaughtered the French as Agincourt. Most of the French never got close enough to the infantry to be hit by a pike. And the it was the yeomen who were required to practise archery.
    Apart from that, good point.

  21. …can we have a rousing cheer that Shami Chakwhateverthefvck is stepping down from Liberty.

    Not until we know what she intends to do next.

    Or we know who is taking over from her?

    Whatever one thinks of her personally – except for those with fascist / authoritarian tendencies, it should be a highly relevant body, and especially in today’s climate.

  22. The terrorists have nothing to do with Islam in the same way that the Spanish Inquisition had nothing to do with the Roman Catholic Church.

    The difference is that everybody has now come to expect the terrorists, except presumably Mrs Merkel.

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