Amanda Marcotte sure is dumb

The Republican war on women continues unabated. The same week that conservatives argued in the Supreme Court that employers should be able to stop their employees from getting contraception coverage outside of the company health plan,

Nobody at all is arguing that women shouldn’t be able to get contraception outside the company provided health plan. In fact, they’re arguing that if women want contraception they should get it outside the company health plan. That may or may not be a good idea but that’s what the idea is.

And then there’s this:

There’s no real evidence that aborting based on a fetus’s race or gender is a thing that happens.

No evidence of sex specific abortions? Presumably Amanduh lives on a planet where India and China don’t exist?

23 thoughts on “Amanda Marcotte sure is dumb”

  1. So Much For Subtlety

    What is wrong with a woman’s right to choose when it comes to race and gender? It either is her body and her private business in which no one else has a say or it isn’t. If it is, on what basis would anyone force her to carry to term a child she does not want to?

    Amanda is at least consistent in that she knows she is in a hole and so refuses to face the reality.

    But why would anyone object? We know that people of the wrong race have a lot of poor outcomes. Discrimination innit. But we also know that skin colour is literally skin deep, right? A child of one race is more or less the same as a child of any other race. So obviously the sensible thing is to encourage as many women as possible to have White children. Abort those that aren’t. How can there be any moral objection to that?

    (This post may contain not so much irony as harsh sarcasm)

  2. What exactly is “based on race” meaning? Apart from surrogate cases, the race of the child is going to be the combined race of the parents. Ignoring bizarre situations such as sperm/egg doner’s misrepresenting their race, this just is not going to ever be a thing.

    “War on women” – let’s not notice the elephant in room on this one, you know, the one that Trump wants to shut out of the country.

  3. And I assume AM will be campaigning for Shrillary, who threw all of her husbands “conquests” under the bus.

    This is the problem with the left – You can’t win by highlighting their hypocrisy because they have no principles or shame.

  4. It’s not a question of stupidity, but of ideological blindness. Marcotte is a dogmatist so she cannot acknowledge the existence of anything that doesn’t fit her dogma. Nor can she admit to the non-existence of anything that her dogma requires, such as the entirely fictional “Republican war on women”.

  5. There is a number of race-based abortions carried out because a woman who’s had an affair is worried about what colour the baby will be.

  6. “No evidence of sex specific abortions? Presumably Amanduh lives on a planet where India and China don’t exist?”

    Brown people don’t count for western feminists.

  7. @ Rob
    “Brown people don’t count for western feminists.” except when they can use them to claim *all* women are opressed by comparing brown women with white men.

  8. “What is wrong with a woman’s right to choose when it comes to race and gender? It either is her body and her private business in which no one else has a say or it isn’t. If it is, on what basis would anyone force her to carry to term a child she does not want to?”

    I don’t know where that bit sits on your irony scale, but if one accepts (as I do) the main principles behind the ‘right to choose’ then it’s spot on.

    If one accepts that there can be limitations on that right, then it’s about where that is justified. If sex-selective abortions run the risk of putting the gender balance in society out of whack, maybe that’s an argument for trying to prevent them… not that there’s much that can be done to do so.

    I can’t believe that ‘race selective’ abortions are enough of a thing to bother about, nor can I see any externality greater than ‘making people have sad feels’, which abortion itself already does plenty.

  9. Either a woman has the right to choose or she doesn’t. The moment you step in and claim the right to decide whether a woman’s choice is for an acceptable or unacceptable reason then you have already decided she doesn’t. Can’t have it both ways.

  10. So Much For Subtlety

    The Thought Gang – “If one accepts that there can be limitations on that right, then it’s about where that is justified. If sex-selective abortions run the risk of putting the gender balance in society out of whack, maybe that’s an argument for trying to prevent them… not that there’s much that can be done to do so.”

    If. An interesting word. But then we have both accepted that a woman does not have an unlimited right to choose and in fact men, and the rest of society, are legitimately entitled to have a say.

    Which means we are arguing about what we assume the social outcomes are. If you like the social outcomes from an abortion you will support that abortion. I think that the social outcomes have been disastrous and not much short of child abuse. Collapsing families structures, abandoned children, more child abuse and so on.

    But I agree not much can be done. Either you allow abortion or you don’t. If you do you can hardly police it.

  11. My state has restrictions on abortion, and they are being enforced. My state is like most other states, with trimester requirements. Third trimester requires medical approvals.

    I’m okay with the law. In spite of it being arbitrary, which is in every other case I know, a violation of liberty.

    I see nothing wrong with blocking the implantation of the blastocyst. I think it wrong to abort a full term, healthy baby that is of no risk to the mother. Arbitrariness required.

    I ask those who are okay with aborting a full term fetus, why isn’t it okay for the mother to just kill the baby an hour after it is born?

  12. Gamecock,

    As I am not an abortion expert all I can say is that there is a high probability of outliers existing where a ‘full term’ abortion could be morally justifiable. I have no issue with a general ban on third term abortions as long as it allows for the outliers that we should expect to see. In short a woman has 6 months to decide. After that there had better be a damn good reason.

    Instead of wasting time fighting this battle over abortion I would rather see the energy put towards eliminating the causes of unwanted pregnancies. Why is it the case that often anti-abortion groups are against tactics that reduce abortions like sexual education and contraceptives?

  13. LY, we have sexual education falling out of our arse. And last time I looked, contraceptives were available everywhere.

    Have you never heard the expression about taking horses to water?

  14. In my school we started sex-ed in 6th grade or 11-12 years old. Parents were allowed to pull their children from school if they objected. Of the six girls that didn’t get it two were pregnant at 13. Of the, roughly, 20 remaining girls only one was pregnant in high school.

    Based on my personal experience the most anti-abortion people are also against sex-ed and contraceptives. Since these attitudes get passed on to the children, I am curious as to why this is the case. It’s not like telling a kid not to have sex is going to suddenly stop them.

  15. Based on my personal experience the most anti-abortion people are also against sex-ed and contraceptives. Since these attitudes get passed on to the children, I am curious as to why this is the case. It’s not like telling a kid not to have sex is going to suddenly stop them.

    Suggest that alcohol education should be predicated on the idea that the teens are going to drink anyway, so we should be teaching them to drink safely.

    Watch people go apoplectic. And a lot of the people who will go apoplectic won’t be the ones complaining about sex-ed.

  16. ‘It’s not like telling a kid not to have sex is going to suddenly stop them.’

    So the purpose of sex education is to hide felonies.

  17. So Much For Subtlety

    Liberal Yank – “It’s not like telling a kid not to have sex is going to suddenly stop them.”

    How do you feel about rape laws?

  18. “In my school we started sex-ed in 6th grade or 11-12 years old. Parents were allowed to pull their children from school if they objected. Of the six girls that didn’t get it two were pregnant at 13. Of the, roughly, 20 remaining girls only one was pregnant in high school.”

    I suspect this says more about the merits of puritan parenting than of sex-ed in school.

  19. JuliaM

    Well said – LY – there is information widely available and diffused on sex education and a huge number of public bodies to disseminate that info and free contraceptives – there really is no excuse for claiming ignorance unless you’ve been being held in a bunker for the last decad….

  20. Thank you everyone. As I said this is based off of my own personal experiences. At least we’re discussing the real problem which is unwanted pregnancies.

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