Depends what you mean by sexism of course

More than twice as many women in football claim to have been sexually harassed and almost three times as many to have been denied access on gender grounds than two years ago, according to a survey conducted for International Women’s Day.
Published by Women in Football, the second major study of the issues facing females working in the game paints a shocking picture at the lack of progress made since the inaugural survey was carried out in 2014.

Over in the US they’re claiming, quite seriously, that the female national team being paid less than the male national team is sexism.

28 thoughts on “Depends what you mean by sexism of course”

  1. So Much For Subtlety

    Maybe twice as many women are playing now? Perhaps they have imaginatively interpreted the data?

    My question is slightly different – why should I give a f**k? These sort of surveys are based on some idea of chivalry and common social values. The idea that I will be outraged and will rush to the poor damsel in distress is not absurd but I am unlikely to do so.

    A group of lesbians are upset by being called rude names? Tough enough for service in Afghanistan. Tough enough to sort it out themselves.

  2. Noticed that the limp wristed ones are after pussyfying you rugger buggers’ faviurite school sport. Shame on them! Lots of talk about character building & leadership skills, too.
    There’s nothing better than teaching posh kids how to succeed in an enviroment of constrained violence.(also see boxing).
    Out here in the real world we don’t consstrain our violence. And the sort mouthy *unt who seeks to lead us comes up against the reality of a heafty kick in the family jewels.

  3. A while ago I had the ‘pleasure’ of watching a key game in the Australian women’s league. The Aussie national team is respectable by world standards. I was always amongst the lowest skilled quartile of blokes playing the game in England (not even close to the school team kinda thing).

    I would not have been skilled or fit enough to hold my own in the match I watched. Not even close. But half of the guys I used to kick about with (call them top-quartile guys.. some would have had pro trials) would have owned the match.

    But then it went to penalties. I’d have taken a better kick than all but one or two, and been a better goalie than either of the participants.

    Women’s football is getting better and better as they a) become full time, and b) bring through more people who’ve played the game properly since they were kids. But it’s just miles behind the men’s game and, more importantly, nowhere near even it’s own potential.

  4. SMFS: “A group of lesbians are upset by being called rude names? Tough enough for service in Afghanistan. Tough enough to sort it out themselves.”

    Bravo! How I wish this blog had a ‘recommend’ option…

  5. I’d be interested to know if women are paid equally in football: as a proportion of the revenue of games spent on wages, I suspect they may be overpaid in relation to the income and wages paid to men.

    I am absolutely certain that the BBC definitely give more coverage to women’s soccer than its ground attendance merits

  6. This is a classic example of the “Have you ever?” question.

    For instance, “have you ever been treated badly by your boss at work?”.

    “Have you ever been insulted?”

    etc.

    Nearly everyone has at least one example. Easy way for SJWs to acquire “shocking” statistics.

  7. @SMFS

    “The idea that I will be outraged and will rush to the poor damsel in distress is not absurd but I am unlikely to do so. ”

    That would be sexist too were you to do so. You’re a man – just another potential rapist.

  8. I have the utmost respect for womens’ sport – on its own terms. And when they form their own organisation, or tour, or whatever thay sport calls it, and go off and organise themselves then they are to be applauded. However, thay then leads to their sport being paid on its own terms as well, independant of the mens’ sport. And that usually ends up with them getting less money. And they don’t complain; we don’t hear this moaning from LPGA pros. When sharing a tournament with men, however, oh God do they cry. But nite that women tennis players only complain they are underpaid AT THE GRAND SLAMS. And then there was the quite pathetic case of that girl on Claire Balding’s show complaint thay the male darts champion of the crap BBC version was paid ten es more than her. If you want more Love (yes, I did call you Love) then go and form your own tournament.

  9. That reads very oddly, Ironman. Are you experimenting with an app to write your posts for you?

  10. This seems quite restrained for a SJW wimmin survey. I was expecting something along the lines of “one in two women footballers raped or had sexist comments perhaps directed at them”, which immediately becomes “one in two women footballers raped” in every news outlet.

  11. “I am absolutely certain that the BBC definitely give more coverage to women’s soccer than its ground attendance merits”

    Yes, and they also sneakily try and imply that their headline under the Cricket section is for the men’s game, e.g. “England v South Africa Live”, and you don’t realise until you click on it what it is. The BBC can then claim their web traffic proves interest in women’s cricket is increasing exponentially, so MOAR TAXES.

  12. Yes, and they also sneakily try and imply that their headline under the Cricket section is for the men’s game, e.g. “England v South Africa Live”, and you don’t realise until you click on it what it is.

    That is so fucking annoying, and it is in effect an admission that they need to mislead viewers into getting them to click on the link. They pushed the FIFA Women’s World Cup for all it was worth a year or so back, rolling out article after article on the front page. I don’t even remember who won, and I doubt more than a handful do.

  13. Clare Balding and Susan Calman, just two examples of useless cringeworthy, placewomen in the pathetic lesbian quota-filling policies of the BBC.

  14. I only like everyday sexism. It’s just a hobby of mine.

    Now, perhaps counterintuitively, I’ve always gotten along well with the sort of short-back-and-sides, blokey, no-nonsense Lez Dennises you sometimes find in the army or in sports.

    You can have a laugh with those kind of indigo girls, they’re not all politically correct.

    It’s the pink haired, nose-ringed SJW ones who are toxic.

  15. @Ian B

    This is a classic example of the “Have you ever?” question.

    For instance, “have you ever been treated badly by your boss at work?”.”

    Even better is the question “Do you know someone who has been……”

    Shock horror when 90% of the population know someone who has been….”

  16. ‘Women in Football’

    Circulation? Over a hundred?

    ‘the second major study’

    Major? My big ol’ hairy butt!

  17. Women’s footer is far superior …. and cheap to watch.

    The men’s game has become a monument to humourlessness, pomposity and annoying haircuts.

    Tim N, I’m surprised at you.

  18. Bloke in Berkshire

    ‘Women’s footer is far superior’

    I’ll bite – presumably you know nothing about football and just go to watch bouncy bits!

  19. BiB,
    To be honest, I’ve only seen one Women’s match, and that was in the US.

    $10 …. sun shining …. I got my money back on the warm-up alone, plus they threw a match in (with goals).

    Best of all, no baffling and/or irritating barnets.

  20. Tim N,
    I’m not surprised at you for liking soccer, just surprised you write off the women’s game.

    Oh, and say “soccer” to “proper” English football fans and they’ll illustrate my point about humourlessness and pomposity.

  21. Jack C, real men don’t play soccer. British men play football and American men play anything but soccer.

  22. The American women’s team are pretty good, unlike the American men.

    If you want to say that the best women’s team in the world should get the same as twentieth-best men’s team, then there might actually be a case there.

  23. @ Bloke in Berkshire
    Please remember that Jack C is talking about the US (except when he is talking about God – well maybe even then). When he says football he means pansies wearing body armour to play rugby.

  24. @ Liberal Yank
    When I was young we had an Amateur Football Association where tens of thousands of real men played soccer. Some still do. I played soccer and rugger at schools (different sports at different schools, except that both played cricket – where I was lumbered with being scorer because I came top at maths). I am quite real.

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