Tax on disposable coffee cups in 3…2….1….March 18, 2016 Tim WorstallYour Tax Money At Work21 CommentsNo plans to tax coffee cups, UK government says previousBlimeynextTells us a lot about the Resolution Foundation, doesn’t it? 21 thoughts on “Tax on disposable coffee cups in 3…2….1….” Tim Newman March 18, 2016 at 9:57 am Coffee cups are way too upper-middle class to be subject to a tax. I was thinking this the other day about the Nespresso and Nescafe Dolce Gusto coffee capsules, and similar products. These are incredibly inefficient and wasteful, but because they are bought primarily by the middle and upper-middle classes nobody talks about carbon footprints and the usual bollocks. But if they were enjoyed only by the upper classes or – God forbid – the proles, there would have been calls for a ban years ago. JuliaM March 18, 2016 at 10:03 am It’ll happen. it’s inevitable. dearieme March 18, 2016 at 10:08 am Our coffee grounds go into the compost heap because we iz green, oh yes. And on a summer’s evening I pee into the compost heap, to preserve the phosphates. Which means I’m recycling coffee, dunnit? There’s a crying need to reverse the genderist discrimination that makes it hard for persons of femaleness to pee onto compost heaps. Harry Lime March 18, 2016 at 10:14 am Sorry Tim but I can definitely see a tax on coffee capsules like Nespresso happening. Upper middle class people that I know of wouldn’t be caught dead with a Nespresso machine. They’d rather buy single origin coffee and put it through a normal espresso maker. The Meissen Bison March 18, 2016 at 10:31 am As the owner of five Bialetti stove top espresso makers used of course in conjunction with a burr grinder, I hold the metropolitan capsule jockeys in utter contempt and would merrily consign them along with their ghastly gizmos to a heaving landfill site. I hadn’t realised how strongly I felt on the subject before reading this thread of coffee making as social polemic. Rob March 18, 2016 at 10:53 am Another day, another ‘crisis’. CJ Nerd March 18, 2016 at 11:59 am #firstworldproblems Andrew M March 18, 2016 at 12:18 pm If distracting politicians with quibbles like this keeps them from doing any real damage, so much the better. As with the 5p charge on plastic bags, people will either bring their own cups, use the shop’s ceramic cups, or pay the 5p. It’s about symbolism anyway, not about effecting real change. At outdoor events in France and Germany it’s normal to pay a €1 deposit for your cup, which you get back when you return the cup to any stall. Jack C March 18, 2016 at 1:54 pm MB, I’m afraid you’ve outed yourself as either a crashing snob with too much time on his hands, or a German. Which is it? The Stigler March 18, 2016 at 2:23 pm Tim Newman, Oh, pods are on the agenda as hipsters hate them. Partly because the likes of Nestle are behind them rather than a small organic fair trade roaster that you’ve never heard of. Ok, yes, they can be wasteful. Know what else is wasteful? Throwing away coffee. Or driving to Costa. I have a pod machine because until recently, I was the only coffee drinker at home, and I rarely drank it at weekends. I’d have a coffee a week, and at that rate, you are throwing it away because it doesn’t stay fresh. My mother is the same. She has a pod machine for guests as she drinks tea. jgh March 18, 2016 at 4:00 pm That’s ok, I only drink tea. Ian Reid March 18, 2016 at 5:27 pm Bishop Hill did this yesterday. http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2016/3/16/thinking-or-not-thinking-about-coffee.html It’s stupidity signalling of the very worst kind. But these are facts and are no lounger relevant in any discussion in this country. Bloke not in Cymru March 18, 2016 at 5:55 pm Local coffee shop charges you a little bit less if you bring your own cup and will even rinse it for you so isn’t there already an implicit cost (or tax) that we most already willingly pay I think the local Starbucks does the same as well Edward Lud March 18, 2016 at 6:11 pm My country-dwelling brother uses a Nespresso, or some such. I, a metropolitan twat, have sworn by stove-top mocha-makers for over a decade. I thought his machine was good, at first. But after a year or two, I found the coffee it produced all but indistinguishable from instant. Interesting revelation of class, or whatever, divides in this thread. My own thr’upenny (sick? Dearime, kindly assist, can’t be arsed to look it up) worth is: coffee’s a fucking drink. If I’m paying £25 for a complex cocktail in a West End bar, then I’ll wait 4-7 minutes, depending on how busy the bar is and how hard the mixchap seems to be working. But coffee? Yards of prats queuing interminably for the latest Colombian quaff subtly spiced with cinnamon sugary pap? Drop dead. You want cinnamon, eat bloody cinnamon. I want to be able to walk into a coffee shop, ask for something that tastes of coffee, rather than 1980s Sharon Maugham*, and walk out 90 seconds later with a decent caffeine jolt and, at most, recognising the raping of the little guy by central London property prices, £1.75 poorer. It’s bloody coffee. And my mocha-maker gets me set up for the day, anyway. Bastards, all of you. Edward Lud March 18, 2016 at 6:21 pm * lots to be said for 1980s for her. Just not in coffee. The Meissen Bison March 18, 2016 at 7:57 pm @Jack C If you’re being serious, you have me at a disadvantage because I’m not. Jack C March 18, 2016 at 8:40 pm 25 pounds is 7.5 bottles of decent Italian peasant wine, at the current special rate. “Disbursements” Mr Lud? Jack C March 18, 2016 at 8:41 pm MB, not what? Edward Lud March 18, 2016 at 9:10 pm Jack C, whatwhatwhat? Jack C March 18, 2016 at 9:29 pm Clearly I’m on to you. john77 March 20, 2016 at 5:06 pm When I lived in the City and worked 100 yards outside it, I used to buy a carefully chosen balance of freshly roasted coffee beans (Mocha, Columbian, Costa Rica and Mocha Mysore, not in equal portions) from the Druly Lane coffee shop – sadly the Sainsbury plutocrats bought the premises so I am deprived. Also my wife threw out the percolator that my mother gave me as a 21st birthday present when bits wore out after three decades. However I am not *yet* reduced to drinking foul brews in Starbucks. Any tax on coffee cups will only have a useful impact if the tax is so high that it exceeds the cost of washing up a durable coffee mug. On takeaways, only if it exceeds the cost of returning the mug. Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. 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